# Why Eve is not a PvP game

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** industrial, pve, pvp\
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-eve-is-not-a-pvp-game/240538 "2020-05-12T09:59:40Z")\
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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> Of course, the crowd still desperately trying to pretend Eve is ‘all about PvP’ will then try to re-define ‘combat’ as ‘any player interaction involving a degree of competitiveness’.

This is CCP’s definition. Not ours. We’re telling you what the game designers have told us since the inception of the game.

I mean, it’s on these very forums. Stickied. Endorsed by CCP:

> [@8 Golden Rules for EVE Online](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973):
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> [image] These are based on [Akita T’s Golden rules for new players](https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=588605), originally published on the old forums. Be able to afford a loss Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can’t afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec. Meaning that you should not fly a ship you cannot afford to replace and refit. Consent to PvP You consent to PvP when you click “undock”. You are not safe in 1.0 security space. [CONCORD](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203208902-CONCORD) is there to punish, not to protect. Get used to the idea. In most case…

Player versus player is any situation where the actions of one individual can either positively or negatively impact the condition of another player. You’re the one redefining PvP by retroactively appending ‘combat’.

This isn’t some other MMO. You’re in Eve now. It has it’s own culture. Adapt or die.

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