# Why has Eve not won any awards or accolades since 2013?

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**Created:** [May 20, 2022, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389 "2022-05-20T10:15:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/22 "2022-05-21T21:41:35Z")

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I mean, ccp is constantly trying to pull more players, for obvious reasons. Having bodies out there pumping up the reputation of your product is the sop for any marketing agency.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_The\_Kraken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karen_the_kraken/32/321163_2.png) [@Karen\_The\_Kraken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karen_The_Kraken)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/23 "2022-05-21T21:53:25Z")

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I’d like to speak to a manager about this thread, please.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/25 "2022-05-21T23:17:21Z")

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> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> What makes you a piece of garbage isn’t that you think their gameplay style is boring, or unfun, or even not worth doing, but the fact you think they are a “whiny wage slave” for the game profession they have chosen.

I don’t think that their gameplay style is boring because I think that their gameplay style is boring; I think that their gameplay style is boring because those players have been _complaining and telling me_ that their gameplay style is boring as I’ve sat in _many_ of their carebear corporations over the years. Very few of those people actually genuinely enjoy wage slave mining, but in a battle between sheer boredom from mining and abject terror from the prospect of having to face the possibility of engaging in combat with other players, sheer boredom always wins.

> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> No?

Sure I did. You just don’t view it that way because you yourself fall squarely into the gutter-trash carebear miner category.

> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> You are foolish if you think it stops at forgettable mobile games.

I don’t play games like that regardless of their platform, so it doesn’t matter to me anyway.

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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/26 "2022-05-21T23:33:50Z")

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Careful, buddy, your emotions are showing.  
You’re an upset miner calling people garbage for playing EVE. How do you consider yourself any different, in regards to being garbage? You’ve let a video game hijack your emotions.  
You’re arguing that being human is bad, now? My lawd, what is ok in the sjw mindset?

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**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/27 "2022-05-21T23:35:47Z")

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> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> “buy all of the game at once and play it forever, no transactional extras”

Wow. That would be Shangri-la.

Instead we have a shake-n-bake universe where the gods (CCP) can wave a magic wand and your Cyclone goes from a projectile to a missile boat. As a favor.

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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/28 "2022-05-21T23:50:33Z")

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You do realize the “re-balances” are usually from player feedback and years of complaining on the forums, reddit and the help channels every chance they get, right?  
CCP makes a lot of mistakes, and those mistakes are usually related to listening to the cry babies all over these forums, and spamming help channels, and mass ticketing. This is a 19 year old video game that is still wildly successful. Do you know of a lot of other space sandbox games out there? Open multi-player like this one?  
Star citizen and elite dangerous don’t count. star citizen will never release as a full version, and elite sucks donkey. The games trying to take over this genre are doing so after more than a decade of CCP already doing it.  
At the end of the day, this is a video game trying to survive in a rapidly changing world. The industry changed, the overall community changed. CCP hasnt done a whole lot of actual change, which makes it a dinosaur that the current gaming community shits on whenever they can.  
Show me anyone doing better under even close to the conditions EVE was born in and has lived through.

(This, btw, is white knighting, @Lano_Oko )

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/30 "2022-05-22T01:00:09Z")

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> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> This is why no one who isn’t a “EDGETARD ELITE GAMERS” thinks highly of you “Hardcore Players”. People who would otherwise agree with your existence get called gutter-trash carebear miner because their EVE life doesn’t revolve around cat-and-mouse player combat: they participate in the collecting of rock, even if its only a small part of their gameplay. To a certain extent, people that take on your game role demonstrate on a regular basis bigoted hostility to anyone who does anything other than engage in combat. This mentally exists within the big coalitions as well. So I should just assume, like you did, that all players in your game profession are gutter trash?

You’ve got it all wrong. I’m _thankful_ that players like you are in the game, because they validate my play style, which requires the presence of prey animals for me to consume. Does that mean they’re in fact noble, and not gutter-trash carebears? No, and it’s not hostile of me to think this way, since those players themselves admit to the severe deficiencies of their play style when pressed. If you engage in a play style that—according to **you** —is boring, and frustrating, and you keep perpetually complaining about it instead of considering the alternatives presented to you, they you’re a gutter-trash player.

Will I consume carebears like they’re beef? Yes, I will. But at the same time, I’d rather that they engaged in a more informed, balanced selection of game activities, and do my best to steer players toward more self-sufficient and fulfilling forms of gameplay when they’re open to advice. If they don’t, then they’re not an ally or a rival (i.e. an _equal,_ even if not in the same profession), but merely _food._ I don’t _mind_ their existence, but I _will_ label it accordingly.

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**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/31 "2022-05-22T01:27:29Z")

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Because awards are advertisements for new games, not a mark of quality, and it’s not a new game.

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**Author:** ![Lano\_Oko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lano_oko/32/417537_2.png) [@Lano\_Oko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lano_Oko)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/32 "2022-05-22T01:45:03Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> If you engage in a play style that—according to **you** —is boring, and frustrating, and you keep perpetually complaining about it instead of considering the alternatives presented to you, they you’re a gutter-trash player.

Never question God-Empire CCP, never speak heresy and say CCP is a poopoo head on the forums whilst you do industry, trade, and abyssal running: while Disciple Destiny pretends all non-sociopaths are of gutter-trash and that all of them still mines full time and “whines” that never partakes into alternatives. They better not touch a single rock. How dare they.

I tried accepting you and your group of corporate sycophants posing as greifers as okay, even necessary, before I knew how slave-mined and hostile you were. But like any Fraternity-cultured greed-lust animal that you are, that is not good enough. You believe the crony lie that it is the bigger fish that gets the reward, so because of this, you are a hostile to everything that exists. Even when you are using a useful “ally”. You are a revolting plague, and you are grinning ear to ear as if I complemented you. That is what makes you a plague. You think you are noble, when in reality, you are a failed thug and a failed crony that needs an escape fantasy to overcome your low worth. For you, that is a high complement.

Why was I ever stupid enough to look up to a moron like you? Maybe I am gutter trash after all.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/33 "2022-05-22T02:01:22Z")

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> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> Never question God-Empire CCP, never speak heresy and say CCP is a poopoo head on the forums whilst you do industry, trade, and abyssal running: while Disciple Destiny pretends all non-sociopaths are of gutter-trash and that all of them still mines full time and “whines” that never partakes into alternatives. They better not touch a single rock. How dare they.

All? No, not at all. There’s a _big_ difference between an industrialist, and a whiny carebear.

> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> I tried accepting you and your group of corporate sycophants posing as greifers as okay

I don’t at all care what you think of me. To me, you’re nothing but another random hidden-profile alt rage-posting your way out of the game. We have a revolving door for people like that here, and it’s always spinning.

> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> you are a failed thug

I am? One would think that if a thug is posting on an internet video game forum, instead of communicating through a phone line going through a glass window, they’re doing alright for themselves.

> [@Lano\_Oko](#):
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> Why was I ever stupid enough to look up to a moron like you?

You looked up to me? This is news to me. I don’t remember ever meeting you, communicating with you, or even noticing your existence here before.

Well, you know what they say, “don’t meet your heroes.”

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-has-eve-not-won-any-awards-or-accolades-since-2013/363389/34 "2022-08-20T02:01:44Z")

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