# Why I dislike gankers and people opposed to ganking **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 26, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998 "2024-02-26T17:37:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/201 "2024-03-03T06:43:47Z")
Well you do have a point, but what should a “honest EVE Online trailer” should look like? Can’t really advertise with the unique feeling of having ruined someones plan by luring him into a trap with superior information, experience and patience. And more important: How would ‘make HS safer for the casuals’ help with that problem of “false expectations”? ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/202 "2024-03-03T12:55:02Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > CCP is _not_ conveying the basic features and attributes of EVE Online in their marketing media. In fact, their marketing is downright deceptive because it very clearly portrays EVE to be a cooperative game instead of a competitive one with _optional_ cooperative elements. There’s no mention, metaphorically-speaking, that Destiny Corrupted is going to appear on one of your high-security space exit gates and blow up your Occator full of your PvE gameplay profits that you spent the last 120 gameplay hours accumulating. While this is true, it’s only part of CCP’s advertising mismatch. Most of their ads show multiple ships flying in formation, engaging in Star Wars-style space battles with strong visual impact. Along with CCP and Steam posting descriptions like: “ **EVE Online is a free-to-play community driven space MMO where players can choose their own path from countless different options. Experience space exploration, immense PvP and PvE battles, mining, industry and a thriving player economy in an ever-expanding sandbox.** ” then yeah, new players are far more likely to get the idea of a cooperative space game with strong community and cool space battles. As opposed to a suspicious gankpool where you rarely interact with anyone else, never see more than a thumbnail headshot, play on a text-filled HUD with small colored dots on it, and when the Star Wars action kicks in, TiDi crushes everything to a grinding halt. CCP appears to be trying to draw in the wider MMORPG audience (or as wide as it gets, anyway), and then convince them that “the EVE way” is pretty cool. And lose 99% of them in the process. They’d almost be better off advertising EVE as a grindy hive of scum and villainy, where desperados in rusty ships stab each other in the back to be the first one to loot your smoking corpse. Then round it off with some “Space: it’s big. Like, really _really_ big. It takes hours just to get anywhere. And when you get there, there’s not much around. Because space, you know. Mostly vacuum. Anyway, EVE Online. Lots of space. Have fun!” Then at least they’d be getting people in who are primed for boredom in advance, rather than surprised by it. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/203 "2024-03-03T14:36:49Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Most of their ads show multiple ships flying in formation, engaging in Star Wars-style space battles with strong visual impact. Which I’ve had several times a week for most of this year so far. Just finished one a few minutes ago. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/204 "2024-03-03T14:39:18Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > what should a “honest EVE Online trailer” should look like? A bunch of people whining on the forums, and ISD locking down threads every other day due to trolling and mud slinging ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/205 "2024-03-04T04:14:54Z")
You need to submit! / read the reply. It needs to be submitted within the next 7 days ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/206 "2024-03-04T07:38:40Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > You need to submit! Yes @Ax_l_Thorne Submit to Frostpacker and his Freeminers, OBEY! You know you want to. 😉 ![url](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/a/4/4a476da376e90932f8236843656037cddc5ec5ab.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/207 "2024-03-04T11:17:33Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > A bunch of people whining on the forums, and ISD locking down threads every other day due to trolling and mud slinging The worst is when the NPCs start acting up. ![lone_pirate4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/f/8/2f810c002b8a19d55ef6274580421a3077031e36.png) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/208 "2024-03-04T22:24:39Z")
What generates that? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/209 "2024-03-05T02:10:31Z")
Real gankers. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/210 "2024-03-05T07:22:31Z")
I can’t exactly recall, either the Angel Cartel epic arc or one of their COSMOS missions. I think it’s the epic arc, though. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/211 "2024-03-05T11:03:37Z")
It’s probably old school content because modern CCP would never do this. ---
**Author:** ![Deedrah\_HerX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deedrah_herx/32/413377_2.png) [@Deedrah\_HerX](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deedrah_HerX)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/212 "2024-03-05T12:51:38Z")
Ganker’s mindset: Look mum, that kid’s got a shiny new toy, watch me smash it to pieces. Basically, socially non-acceptable behavior justified by their own feelings of accomplishments for destroying other people’s hard work and enjoyment. And yes, you do take away someone’s enjoyment by ganking them. It’s not a fun content and it’s not welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/213 "2024-03-05T13:16:55Z")
Welcome to the forums! Thank you for sharing your opinion and contributing to the discussion around this amazing game! I’m sure this will be the start of an amazing interaction with you, a unique and heretofore unknown but totally real player. ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/214 "2024-03-05T14:16:09Z")
Let’s say you decide to go to a boxing gym. It is a place where people like to punch each other. Of course, nobody likes to be punched himself (well some may) but to punch others. Okay so far? If you went to this gym and you would be punched, would you start arguing with the person punching you, that this is mean and not right and so on? EVE is a GAME. A starships-shoot-each-other-game. So if you play this game, you might be shot. It is not a second life or something. I would never in real life go and kill people for fun. But i do it in this GAME. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/215 "2024-03-05T22:26:32Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > it’s devolved into a bunch of primates throwing ■■■■ at each other Devolved from what exactly? That ■■■■ throwing match is going on for over 20 years ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/216 "2024-03-05T22:46:06Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > That ■■■■ throwing match is going on for over 20 years And the ones that 1st started throwing have evolved an understanding for each side , it’s only the young whipper snappers that add to the fire . ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/217 "2024-03-07T00:56:00Z")
> [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > to this gym and you would be punched, would you start arguing with the person punching you, that this is mean and not right and so on? > > EVE is a GAME. A star youre acting like a boxing gym is the same thing as eve poeple say that you agree to pvp by downloading the game I think thats what youre playing at here but truthfully eve and a boxing gym are 2 diffrent things in a boxing gym everone wants to be punched thats explixt everone agress on that but not eve you no everone think that just becuase you downloded the game you agree to pvp and the pople youre killing never consted to be shot in the way someone would in a boxing gym ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/218 "2024-03-07T01:12:27Z")
Yeah but see they did. Thats what you aren’t getting. It can happen everywhere in Eve. Been like that for 20 years. Stop trying to change the one game that exists like that. Go play something else if you don’t like that format. ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/219 "2024-03-07T01:29:24Z")
most of gankers arugment is thats just how the game is played and you can just keep on going back to that once thing whenever youer not gonna win a arugment ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998/220 "2024-03-07T01:34:16Z")
Because it is. It’s literally how the game is designed by CCP. You are vulnerable to attack all over the place by anyone. I’ve never ganked anyone but that’s just a fact of the games. It’s like playing baseball and having a problem with that fact that you can strike out. Yep, that’s the game. If you don’t want to strike out because it’s unfair and ruined your hard work of walking to the plate, try golf instead of complaining about the sport you picked. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-dislike-gankers-and-people-opposed-to-ganking/440998.md?page=12)