# Why I quit AG and why you should too **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [July 31, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937 "2022-07-31T13:36:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/244 "2022-08-21T20:19:03Z")
> [@Roxana\_Dawn](#): > > in the time you make the isk to buy one you get ganked and destroyed 50 times No you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/245 "2022-08-21T20:23:01Z")
Look, darling… a player can make 20 thousand ships a month… what will happend to the market if people don’t destroy what is produced? ---
**Author:** ![Roxana\_Dawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roxana_dawn/32/419978_2.png) [@Roxana\_Dawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roxana_Dawn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/246 "2022-08-21T20:23:59Z")
they get enough destruction in nullsec, lowsec, wormholes, trig space, , New eden has a large space for those things I used to do that too but i cannot afford ships anymore because i cannot farm with all the ganking going on and shiz ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/247 "2022-08-21T20:30:10Z")
New Eden has no space for people who can’t stomach losing a ship. Really. The line must at least be drawn there or it’s not Eve. I mined with my ships for ridiculous lengths of time before needing to replace them due to loss, and I had lots of extras from the profits I made from a ship before it blew up, and that’s in systems with somewhat regular ganking patrols. It’s not that hard. ---
**Author:** ![Roxana\_Dawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roxana_dawn/32/419978_2.png) [@Roxana\_Dawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roxana_Dawn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/248 "2022-08-21T20:35:40Z")
I dont mind losing a ship in PVP, if i go to pvp its obviously meant to destroy or be destroyed i like fighting If i know its going to be destroyed anyway i insure it also But ganking is nothing like pvp because there iis no actual fighting in it. is just straight ■■■■■■■■ ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/249 "2022-08-21T20:48:40Z")
You’re trying to plunder the system resources and someone else is trying to stop you from getting them. You started the fight when you started mining. Everything you get devalues what everyone else gets. You were PvPing from the get go. Gankers just take you up on your invitation. I have mined a lot, almost entirely in highsec. I have not had a problem getting adequate reward for the risk. I do not consider myself a very good player of Eve or games in general, so I feel like if I can do it most people can. ---
**Author:** ![Roxana\_Dawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roxana_dawn/32/419978_2.png) [@Roxana\_Dawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roxana_Dawn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/250 "2022-08-21T20:54:00Z")
Man, you are one of them, spyng for them or collaborating for them, you have ganker alts in their corp or something Maybe you gank on your own or with friends too You most likely mined and all that stuff because they leave you alone because they know who you really are YOu know how i know that? Simply because you replied at my posts. And you are lieng about everythng Everyone else then gankers hate gankers or live in spaces where dont care about whats happening in high sec. Everyone play in fear except you and a bunch that do the same as you ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/251 "2022-08-21T20:57:22Z")
If what you say is true, how do you explain that 99% of all players do not get ganked? ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/252 "2022-08-21T21:00:55Z")
> [@Roxana\_Dawn](#): > > Everyone play in fear No, it’s just you. There’s 20 years worth of players used to dangerous high sec that you can’t speak on behalf of. ---
**Author:** ![Roxana\_Dawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roxana_dawn/32/419978_2.png) [@Roxana\_Dawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roxana_Dawn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/253 "2022-08-21T21:01:05Z")
Is that true ? ---
**Author:** ![Roxana\_Dawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roxana_dawn/32/419978_2.png) [@Roxana\_Dawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roxana_Dawn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/254 "2022-08-21T21:02:32Z")
Well i wish they would not be ignorant about it and start complaining. They live in comunism I want to live in democracy ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/255 "2022-08-21T21:03:15Z")
I promise. Just look at the killboards. According to zKill we had 16 ganks today, well maybe a few more because some kills not show up if not reported. But lets say 30 ships were ganked today. 30 of thousands and thousands that undocked and did whatever they wanted in HighSec. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/256 "2022-08-21T21:06:52Z")
> [@Roxana\_Dawn](#): > > I want to live in democracy I want Eve to have zero whiners. We can all want unrealistic things. ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/257 "2022-08-21T21:10:34Z")
Anybody who knows anything about me knows I don’t hurt anybody who doesn’t try to hurt me first. I only ever made two characters both on the same account. This one, and an alt I used when my asocial self was overloaded and wanted to monitor what was going on in game and make sure everyone was doing well without having to drain my social battery further. You won’t believe that, I’m sure, since it’s much more convenient for you to believe that what I did isn’t possible. ---
**Author:** ![Roxana\_Dawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roxana_dawn/32/419978_2.png) [@Roxana\_Dawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roxana_Dawn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/258 "2022-08-21T21:11:11Z")
Thats how democracy and freedom started in real world With people whining , being enslaved, mistreated, discriminated and so and so on ---
**Author:** ![Roxana\_Dawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roxana_dawn/32/419978_2.png) [@Roxana\_Dawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roxana_Dawn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/259 "2022-08-21T21:12:45Z")
Well i would like to see those 30 people everyday coming and complaing for a change ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/260 "2022-08-21T21:21:53Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > You fundamentally misunderstand how gankers operate. > > They go to where the targets are. Indeed…which is why I keep telling miners that there are plenty of highsec systems where they can literally mine all day without seeing a ganker. But nobody listens. Then they wonder why they get ganked in systems like Isanamo. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/261 "2022-08-21T21:23:05Z")
Shall they, shall they, however these 30 people also should realize that they don’t talk about some “major problem” or “dire imbalance”, but about a very tiny issue, which they could have circumvented entirely by themselves in the first place. The main “problem” is not ganking, its the fear of ganking and the lazyness of people, not willing to take preparations into consideration when planning their activities. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/262 "2022-08-21T21:32:29Z")
> [@Roxana\_Dawn](#): > > Everyone play in fear No they don’t. I’ve been to Uedama in a Venture called ‘Gank This !’ and mined there…just to rile the gankers. I’ve never been ganked while mining ( even when I had a Procurer ) and rather than ‘fear’ I love the excitement of the chase. In fact not only have I never been ganked while mining…I’ve even scored two kill rights against failed attempts. Miner 2 Gankers 0 Stop ‘living in fear’ and _enjoy_ the game ! The worst that can happen is you lose a few space pixels. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/263 "2022-08-21T22:24:57Z")
@Roxana_Dawn … my spider senses tell me you are a very famous ganker who just made an alt to troll everybody, I see you are in a good mood today and you are a woman in real life [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937.md?page=14)