# Why I quit AG and why you should too **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [July 31, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937 "2022-07-31T13:36:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/142 "2022-08-04T21:09:50Z")
I feel bad for Dracvlad because he is so maligned and wrongly treated by all these nasty forum griefer bullies. Dracvlad just wants to not play a game, and argue endlessly in the forums with his strong opinions about what is and isn’t. I was talking to Aiko the other day, and she said that he even lectured her about her own alliance, who is who and how it all works and what they do and how they do it and why and wherefore. The Dracvlad is just a real know it all, and it’s amazing that other people don’t acknowledge his sage expertise as the final word in any discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/143 "2022-08-04T21:16:52Z")
Aiko it is absolutely disgusting how you force yourself upon poor Dracvlad despite he blocked you and yet you use physical force on him to read your posts and reply to them. Such clear showcase of inhumane treatment should not be tolerated and should warrant real-life prison time. 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/144 "2022-08-04T21:20:40Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I feel bad for Dracvlad because he is so maligned and wrongly treated by all these nasty forum griefer bullies. Dracvlad just wants to not play a game, and argue endlessly in the forums with his strong opinions about what is and isn’t. I was talking to Aiko the other day, and she said that he even lectured her about her own alliance, who is who and how it all works and what they do and how they do it and why and wherefore. The Dracvlad is just a real know it all, and it’s amazing that other people don’t acknowledge his sage expertise as the final word in any discussion. I think the entire community owes him a big apology. We should all get him a fruit basket. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/145 "2022-08-04T21:25:20Z")
I know what you are trying to say with that. Just nasty Destin(ies) being Destin(ies). Tut tut! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/146 "2022-08-04T21:29:05Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/4/1/741519e7991a4356d1c37b9562afa4ab7fff13a3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/147 "2022-08-04T21:55:13Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > The Dracvlad is just a real know it all Dracvlad is so knowledgeable, if you had the sum of all knowledge in existence, the truth basically, Dracvlad’s knowledge would still be bigger than that. He could lecture god so to speak. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Don’t give up your day job. You will never make money as a comedian… You hurt me Drac. Because it comes from you I accept this as true ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/148 "2022-08-04T23:29:40Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > By the way, if you are the real deal just enjoy Eve, which you seem to be doing. We don’t agree on many things, but Drac speaks the truth. Just enjoy the game is good advice. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/149 "2022-08-05T06:37:18Z")
So much hate from certain people here. You need to calm down, it is only a game. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/150 "2022-08-05T11:12:17Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > It is mean because they are unable to accept that they can be attacked in **high security** space in the first place. And unable to quit the game as well which is what they should do if they cannot accept it. > > It is precisely because CONCORD arrives, because the very act of attacking uprovoked is _illegal_. And if it is illegal it shouldn’t be possible and it is mean. Alas people mistake ‘high’ security for ‘absolute’ security. It simply never dawns on them that the whole reason Concord have slower response time in 0.5 to 1.0 systems is to make them less secure. I mean…that’s not some accident or oversight. A level of insecurity is built into the game, and intended. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/151 "2022-08-05T11:41:21Z")
> [@Aquablue](#): > > After becoming disillusioned with AG, not just because the content has become stale, but notably the attitude(s) of the AG player base and Gank ‘Victims’ that has led me to the decision to leave this player group and denounce previous association. Yeah, they are a pretty toxic bunch. You are not the first to experience this. Most of them are not ag because they enjoy the playstile of hunting gankers. They are ag because they despise or outright hate gankers, while having some kind of hero complex. Because they think they are the “good guys” and can’t separate pixel shooting in a game from real violence, they somehow feel justified to act extremely aggressive and toxic to gankers, and anyone they perceive as supporting or enable them, including CCP for not removing it from the game. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/152 "2022-08-05T11:51:44Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Yeah, they are a pretty toxic bunch. You are not the first to experience this. Most of them are not Gankers because they enjoy the playstile of hunting others. They are gankers because they despise or outright hate other players, while having some kind of anti-hero complex. Now think about what you said. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Because they think they are the “good guys” and can’t separate pixel shooting in a game from real violence, they somehow feel justified to act extremely aggressive and toxic to other players, and anyone they perceive as opposing them, including CCP for any adjustment to the game. Does that sit well with you? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/153 "2022-08-05T12:08:18Z")
Now that you edited it, it doesn’t make any sense anymore. I have never seen a ganker who does not gank just for the pure pleasure of ganking. It’s about the most fun activity in this game. Dunking miners just never gets old. Absolutely nothing to do with hate. We also don’t want to change or remove mining, we just play the game. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/154 "2022-08-05T13:49:25Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > He could lecture god so to speak. Wait is this missing Lore? So Dracvlad trained Bob? And advised him on drop% values for killmails? So when no loot drops we should all be shouting out DAMMIT DRAC! > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I was talking to Aiko the other day I too like to talk to myself. ---
**Author:** ![Kenzore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenzore/32/423356_2.png) [@Kenzore](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenzore)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/155 "2022-08-05T13:55:50Z")
Drac what is the meaning of eve life? I would talk to my self too if I had the mind of Aiko. Not you thou Reso I would get bored. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/156 "2022-08-05T14:03:41Z")
Boredom is a good thing thou. ---
**Author:** ![Thotamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thotamon/32/505477_2.png) [@Thotamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thotamon)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/157 "2022-08-05T14:36:26Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/1/9/5193a9d88c8c2f7f35890a2091ad2d36e166b6ad.jpeg "EVE Online - Noctis saved") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVE7d3hf3OQ) Me doing logi and combat drones on Ganker, i did not die (that time) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/158 "2022-08-05T14:38:11Z")
Simple, the meaning of Eve life is to use your noodle to avoid being someone’s killmail and in doing so get as many kills as you can and build up your position while making as many friends and contacts as possible. Oh and don’t forget to do something fun every so often 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Thotamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thotamon/32/505477_2.png) [@Thotamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thotamon)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/159 "2022-08-05T14:41:20Z")
Yeah the biggest fail i would say comes from the pilots not fitting their ships, does not have to be fancy blue stuff but just leaving all the slots empty is meh. I saved a badger from 6 Ruptures, ok i give they did not attack all at once but it was not even hard to keep his shield up since he put some effort into it. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/160 "2022-08-05T14:48:07Z")
No way, Drac said this isn’t possible to do anymore! You cheater! ---
**Author:** ![Thotamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thotamon/32/505477_2.png) [@Thotamon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thotamon)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937/161 "2022-08-05T14:52:03Z")
But i did die from repping a freighter with safety red, i was a tad bit surprised, but he could have used a web alt and failed at getting away, or war target but the zkill entry did not state war so i can only assume it was from web. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-i-quit-ag-and-why-you-should-too/371937.md?page=9)