# Why is eve a nieche and why does it appeal to so few people **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 13, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489 "2020-03-13T00:50:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/21 "2020-03-13T01:55:55Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > > [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > > > by YOUR definition > > My definition is in line with that of CCP. > > Yours on the other hand, is not. and CCCP’s definition is as irrelevant as is yours ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/22 "2020-03-13T01:56:07Z")
Hello Kitty Online is that way ----\> I’m sure it even has safe spaces and income equality. You’ll be right at home… ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/23 "2020-03-13T01:57:49Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > > [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > > > its near impossible to any solo players to run them > > More ■■■■■■■■. Just go learn the game. > > I get it. Weak minded carebears struggle to play, so I see where you are coming from, but that weakness isn’t the games fault. It’s just you. > > So maybe EVE isn’t for you. If you aren’t up to it, you might find more enjoyment playing something earier. ohh, if it would be about weak mind then you would be excluded 😃 ohh, and this is what Im doing, I play other things. This post is all about letting the losers at cccp know why they have to send their employees away while other mmos earn multimillions, but I know, realising this, your weak mind is not enough. this requires iq ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/24 "2020-03-13T01:58:35Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Hello Kitty Online is that way ----\> > > I’m sure it even has safe spaces and income equality. You’ll be right at home… good, I didnt know the way. well seen who came from hkonline 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/25 "2020-03-13T01:59:55Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > and CCCP’s definition is as irrelevant as is yours Their game, their rules; if you don’t like the rules you don’t have to play. Their definition carries infinitely more weight than yours. ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/26 "2020-03-13T02:01:45Z")
no, their definition is that makes this game a miserable crap that people are avoiding and even the ones tried are leaving, but again, comprehension and minimal iq is requirement to understand the entire post and you clearly are lacking in both ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/27 "2020-03-13T02:04:55Z")
I guess that’s why there are roughly 6,000 new players in rookie chat each and every day asking questions about how the game works. You know, because they are avoiding EVE… ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/28 "2020-03-13T02:05:22Z")
🍿 not everyone is cut out for the game, congrats on finding out sooner than later that you’re not cut out for it. now instead of trying to change the game for everyone else, why don’t you just leave and go do something you enjoy? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/29 "2020-03-13T02:05:52Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > comprehension and minimal iq is requirement to understand the entire post and you clearly are lacking in both And this is how we know that you have nothing. Play something else if you can’t handle Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/30 "2020-03-13T02:07:22Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > I guess that’s why there are roughly 6,000 new players in rookie chat each and every day asking questions about how the game works. You know, because they are avoiding EVE… there are no 6000 p[layers altogether playing this game at any point of any day 😃 dream more ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/31 "2020-03-13T02:07:57Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > 🍿 > > not everyone is cut out for the game, congrats on finding out sooner than later that you’re not cut out for it. now instead of trying to change the game for everyone else, why don’t you just leave and go do something you enjoy? why dont you learn to read? its a good way to train your brain, you would need it ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/32 "2020-03-13T02:08:09Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > there are no 6000 p[layers altogether playing this game at any point of any day ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/e/aef79b7fc3408fd54bf33def016ae92cc5e2dc58.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/d/adc75b03b947b763e11f3eceb3ccb22a3390aa8f.png) WHOA! ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/33 "2020-03-13T02:10:12Z")
like if you didnt know those are alts and bots 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/34 "2020-03-13T02:13:57Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > no, its not, griefing has many forms and most are allowed, what more, catered to… so you missed the mark Ganking and Gate Camps are not griefing. They are standard PvP gameplay. Griefing however is specifically banned by the EULA. You need to step back, realise that EVE is an open PvP game and that you might be killed for your loot or just your km even. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/35 "2020-03-13T02:15:09Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > like if you didnt know those are alts and bots Last count was an average 1.5 accounts per player. They won’t all be using multiple accounts at once, so 21k logged in is likely at least 15k unique players. If you want to assert otherwise provide some evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/36 "2020-03-13T02:15:37Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > alts and bots And you do? @Amun_Doshu Here’s old CCP\_Quant talking about the accounts per player: [Reddit - Dive into anything](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3j7nso/at_least_we_know_how_many_alts_there_are/cun2q2o/) Looks like you’re wrong, kiddo. ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/37 "2020-03-13T02:17:43Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > > [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > > > no, its not, griefing has many forms and most are allowed, what more, catered to… so you missed the mark > > Ganking and Gate Camps are not griefing. They are standard PvP gameplay. > Griefing however is specifically banned by the EULA. > You need to step back, realise that EVE is an open PvP game and that you might be killed for your loot or just your km even. no, they are not, everything that causes somebody grief is griefing. that ccp has their own failed twisted view on it is their own ■■■■, that does not change facts ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/38 "2020-03-13T02:18:49Z")
> [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > everything that causes somebody grief is griefing. By your definition you’re griefing, simply because you’re shitstirring on the forums and causing the ISD team grief. ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/39 "2020-03-13T02:19:04Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > > [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > > > like if you didnt know those are alts and bots > > Last count was an average 1.5 accounts per player. They won’t all be using multiple accounts at once, so 21k logged in is likely at least 15k unique players. > If you want to assert otherwise provide some evidence. count? and how did they count it? this was the worse joke on this forum 😃 😃 😃 really did they count how many virtual machines people run? or how many are just script run bots? oh, tell me an other joke please, i can rarely laugh this hard ---
**Author:** ![Amun\_Doshu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amun_doshu/32/191569_2.png) [@Amun\_Doshu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amun_Doshu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489/40 "2020-03-13T02:20:13Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > > [@Amun\_Doshu](#): > > > > everything that causes somebody grief is griefing. > > By your definition you’re griefing, simply because you’re shitstirring on the forums and causing the ISD team grief. ohh, “cry me a river babe”… ohh wait, yeah, how many times ive seen this in eve 😃 btw, this is not my definition, this is THE definition of griefing [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-a-nieche-and-why-does-it-appeal-to-so-few-people/225489.md?page=3)