# Why Is EVE PvE So Easy To Bot? **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [May 16, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151 "2019-05-16T15:30:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/41 "2019-05-29T08:54:20Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > As far as I can see botters do nothing that harms the game or affects YOU. And the award for the dumbest thing I’ve read on the forums goes to @Natocha_Daisy! ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_taan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_taan/32/381307_2.png) [@Jin\_taan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_taan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/42 "2019-05-29T09:03:11Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > As far as I can see botters do nothing that harms the game or affects YOU. Have you heard of this little thing called macroeconomics? ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/43 "2019-05-29T09:21:03Z")
> [@Jin\_taan](#): > > Have you heard of this little thing called macroeconomics? Yes. I still don’t see the problem with bots. ---
**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/44 "2019-05-29T14:40:30Z")
They make all players earn less for their time in general. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/45 "2019-05-29T14:41:48Z")
I get that point, but come on, how often do you see bots in Eve? And there’s more than enough resources to go around. And who wants to grind? I can’t stand it when players think it’s doing a favour to tell ccp stuff about other players. It spoils the fun. ---
**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/46 "2019-05-29T14:43:22Z")
See them all the time while pvping, they are the ones who are already warping off the site 0.1 seconds after you enter system. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/47 "2019-05-29T14:44:12Z")
lol, i wonder how they manage that. Also, how can you prove it? ---
**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/48 "2019-05-29T14:45:55Z")
Because I use logoffski to catch the bot’s but when you log in your already in warp, you can scan towards the direction your warping and you can count the seconds while scanning in that direction - their align time/warp to get when they initiated warp and its usually immediately. Also if you do the logoffski 10 more times waiting the same amount of time each the bot will be there every time and warp off before/as you land. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/49 "2019-05-29T14:47:23Z")
Wow… And they can programme these bot accounts to actually farm, using modules effectively and avoiding targets? If only I was this smart… ---
**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/50 "2019-05-29T14:48:22Z")
Bot programmer’s are not smart they are retarded for needing to cheat to win at eve, also their bot’s are primitive they don’t learn they just do the same thing over and over. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/51 "2019-05-29T19:25:57Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > how often do you see bots in Eve? I see them every day, actually. ---
**Author:** ![DraconisAlpha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/draconisalpha/32/275542_2.png) [@DraconisAlpha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DraconisAlpha)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/52 "2019-05-30T04:35:50Z")
Bots affect me directly. Indirectly they affect any player by increasing ISK production, thus plex & every other item. ---
**Author:** ![anon29945599](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@anon29945599](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/anon29945599)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/53 "2019-05-30T11:55:08Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/4/d49470ac9fc8f78884f6d83a99791b3f6a0ecbd0.jpeg) Jin\_taan: > > > Have you heard of this little thing called macroeconomics? > > Yes. > > I still don’t see the problem with bots. Bots increase the prices of PLEX, Skill Injectors and Rare Modules in EvE, while depressing the prices of everything else on the market. That is the effect of their monotonous never-ending grinding. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/54 "2019-05-30T11:58:56Z")
what’s the problem then? ccp create a game that relies on monotonous grind for pleasure, so players create bots to do it for them… players can’t be blamed for the effects of their hard work. Maybe we need BETTER SHIPS or more fun gameplay. Then players would spend time playing instead of using bots. PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A HIGH-SEC CARRIER 🤤 ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/55 "2019-05-30T12:13:03Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > ccp create a game that relies on monotonous grind for pleasure, so players create bots to do it for them… > > players can’t be blamed for the effects of their hard work. > > Maybe we need BETTER SHIPS or more fun gameplay. Then players would spend time playing instead of using bots. > > PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A HIGH-SEC CARRIER What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/1/11918170eaa6436541b29a09a68dc1c8181bf4e8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/57 "2019-07-21T23:38:27Z")
off topic pls del… what i was trying to put forward is that bots are being like humans and now humans will become just as efficient as a bot due to brain implants as per a news article I had read. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/58 "2019-07-21T23:41:26Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > HIGH-SEC CARRIER me thinks this Battle Orca full of geckos named steve is what you need. ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/59 "2019-07-22T13:46:15Z")
Everything is easy to bot. Because every repetitive task that live people do, machines can do better. Drones and such are just easier to automate, require much less coding and has no need for ammo. That does not mean a missile boat is altogether impossible to bot. Especially when there is some serious $ at the end of it. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/60 "2019-07-22T15:57:18Z")
> [@Azalais\_Selenica](#): > > Especially when there is some serious $ at the end of it. And that is the answer to the OP question. There are bots because there are people who buy bots’ product. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina/32/148069_2.png) [@Sordina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151/61 "2019-07-23T12:13:00Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > There are bots because there are people who buy bots’ product. More important are people that buy products that bots produce. Isk and plex via RMT. I don’t think people will bot just to bot. Waste money, money on energy bills just to get more pixels. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-eve-pve-so-easy-to-bot/160151.md?page=4)