# Why is everyone multiboxing so many accounts now **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 21, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541 "2024-06-21T17:53:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/289 "2024-09-25T19:01:19Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > PCs weren’t as powerful as now. EVE in its early days could be ran on a 1987 Nintendo Gameboy. There was nowhere near the current level of graphics detail. Multiple PC’s are also a thing, even today… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/290 "2024-09-25T19:02:07Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Sounds like a myth to me. Its very basic logic. Sorry. I mean, just take Freighter Ganking as example. If a Gankfleet would actually need to have 40 real people in fleet and on comms to gank a Freighter, you’d see barely any Freighter ganks, simply because the times they can actually get these numbers of real people together are very very rare. Simply because so much people don’t all have time at the same moment. > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > I don’t know, never heard that particular argument before. I think that entirely depends on who you actually talk to. From the guys I play this game with and regulary talk to, at least 50% would instantly remove (mass-)multiboxing, or at least make it a lot less lucrative. And no, they are not jealous, most of them are filthy rich vets who could easily PLEX multiple accs for years. > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Why would it hold true now if it wasn’t the case in say 2011-14, when multiboxing was also a thing (one of my friends ganked the ■■■■ out of enemy fleets with his 10 accounts of sb alts, and he wasn’t the only one). It was far less common in these times. _FAR_ less. Even if some of your friends did it already. I joined in 2009 and back then the majority had 1-2 accounts, very rarely people had more. Since then, the number of Alts did go up significantly as the computing power and connection capacity increased. Thats just logical, I hope you don’t really doubt that. And since I personally know multiple guys who dislike EVE for exactly this development, it isn’t that hard to estimate that there are many many others out there. But as said, we will never know since we are only able to experience the situation _as it is_. @QuakeGod All nice and fine, I doubt we will find a common ground so I won’t waste time with an endless discussion. I’ve said what I wanted to say and believe it to be true in all honesty. I think the game misses much of it’s potential because it caters the big groups too much, for too long, because that actually hinders “grassroot growth” which ensures a future of competitors and challangers which make established empires crumble at some time. You are free to disagree tho, we probably won’t convince each other. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/291 "2024-09-25T19:02:23Z")
Still, it took ages to train chars and we didnt have skill injectors. It was a lot less common than now, face the fact or buzz off. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/292 "2024-09-25T19:15:46Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > Still, it took ages to train chars and we didnt have skill injectors. Yes, I know. I was there. We had to mine Veldspar in cruisers, in the snow, uphill, both ways… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/293 "2024-09-25T19:29:43Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > What difference does it make if you get blobbed by a one-man 20 alt army, or 20 individual players? You’re dead either way… Other than a few well known cases, I don’t think _anyone_ is running 20 man alt armies. Maybe there are mining fleets with 20 alts sitting in the far depths of safe nullsec, but the whole ‘20 man army’ thing is hugely over-played. In all the combat I’ve been involved in, fleets and station bashing and even some ganking, I’m not aware of any situation where anyone has ever run more than 4 or 5 chars simultaneously and even those cases are rare. Fact is, in fleets where there may be a call for a new target, and scrap the existing one, every few seconds, it is simply _not possible_ to multibox those effectively with more than a handful of chars. To be a little cynical, I’ve been in fleets where people seem to have a hard enough time managing one char…let alone more. So the entire ‘problem’ is grossly over-inflated. I can multibox, but 9 times out of 10 when I do so it is purely the use of a scout. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/294 "2024-09-25T19:35:11Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Mors tua, vita mea - isn’t that how things are done in EvE ? I think there’s also ‘Alle Menschen müssen sterben’, which is perhaps just my own experience of the game! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/295 "2024-09-25T19:37:29Z")
We say “Valar Morghulis” in Halaima. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/296 "2024-09-25T19:43:41Z")
The servers in 2010 were able to handle more players than nowadays… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/297 "2024-09-25T19:48:47Z")
Tell us some war stories grandpa! ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/298 "2024-09-25T20:10:42Z")
Some people will multibox simply ‘because I can’. Others will do so because they enjoy playing solo. Others again are driven by the urge (mediated by their means) to acquire as much of what they value as they can. I multibox because it’s no longer possible to solo gank a mining vessel in an asteroid belt (one ganker, one scout), and I perform poorly in normally constituted fleets. For me, it’s as straightforward as that. I have no issue at all with any other player fielding as many alts as he can manage. I struggle to understand the mentality (occasionally on show, above) behind the wish to regulate the behaviour of other gamers, wrapped up in ‘it’s bad for the game’. As usual, it’s a dime-a-dozen thread title which - if commentors stay on topic - cannot possibly yield fruitful exchanges. ‘Everyone’ isn’t multiboxing, and any increase in the incidence of the practice - perceived or actual - cannot surely form the basis of an argument for its stricter regulation, or removal. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/299 "2024-09-25T20:36:32Z")
Indeed, in our trusty stabbers, and other mates to can and hoard the rocks away … The mutual and cooperative needs of many … The chatter … Far far away from today’s individualistic and socially averse tripe, where no one needs anyone, since everyone does everything… Eve has achieved where all mmos could not : To survive by actively promoting the removal of players from its own game …. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/300 "2024-09-25T20:39:55Z")
If you all you need is another ganker, why not simply convo someone ingame to play with you ? Oh, thats right, no one plays like that anymore. Eve, the singleplayer experience … ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/301 "2024-09-25T20:48:54Z")
You sound kind of like you don’t play EvE Online. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/302 "2024-09-25T20:53:10Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > ‘Everyone’ isn’t multiboxing, and any increase in the incidence of the practice - perceived or actual - cannot surely form the basis of an argument for its stricter regulation, or removal. I was involved in an “animated” discussion three months ago about growth vs decline of the EvE population. Altara and I were able to dig up some numbers from a FanFest presentation: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/1/8/a184f0c6d30dbb551a400e584ec48a6e51b5f4a0.jpeg) That seems to be the official number anno 2022 (and no, we still don’t know how they defined the “Average EVE Player”, most likely active omega accounts?). That hardly looks like “everyone multiboxing so many accounts now” 😉 It also seems to fit the next statement quite well, 13 years earlier: > [@Syzygium](#): > > I joined in 2009 and back then the majority had 1-2 accounts, very rarely people had more. and not so much with the rest of it. > [@Verlyn](#): > > Far far away from today’s individualistic and socially averse tripe, where no one needs anyone, since everyone does everything… I’ve read your earlier posts about less social contacts in the game. Can it be because the newest generation of EvE players don’t reach the point where they start feeling the need to have someone else around, iow they don’t stick around long enough ? Personally I often chat during/after chance encounters (usually botched attacks etc, lol). Or because they don’t plunge into non-hisec ? ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/303 "2024-09-25T20:54:15Z")
Last time I logged on was to get creamed in a kity breacher by someone not even bothered to gf the exchange, and systems full of awoxing Frats in multiboxed Algos fleets. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/304 "2024-09-25T21:01:20Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > I’ve read your earlier posts about less social contacts in the game. Can it be because the newest generation of EvE players don’t reach the point where they start feeling the need to have someone else around, iow they don’t stick around long enough ? Personally I often chat during/after chance encounters (usually botched attacks etc, lol). Or because they don’t plunge into non-hisec ? Well they can inject skills and become self sufficient in almost anything significantly more rapidly than before. So there’s less need to appeal to someone else’s services or different spec. You can be self-sufficient from your first week more or less, it’s that easy now … Also because well, the games so fkin old, most of the core playerbase either already peaked end-game for all their chars, and left, or the ones that stuck around are entirely self-sufficient. Interaction dies when you have everything you need. If it were me, I would introduce serverwide wipes of assets and skillrot, but thats just me ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/305 "2024-09-25T21:01:36Z")
So based on your lack of experience, you probably should move along, friend. I heard the Farmville forums are still up. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/306 "2024-09-25T21:02:38Z")
First char made in 2005, stfu and go back to alt-tab simulator. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/307 "2024-09-25T21:03:41Z")
Cry more bitterboomerbear. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541/308 "2024-09-25T21:10:36Z")
> [@Verlyn](#): > > If you all you need is another ganker, why not simply convo someone ingame to play with you ? I dislike grouped activities. always have done. I like to rely upon my own abilities and resources in seeking out entertainment and the other good stuff. I am not antisocial, I simply have a preference for activities which can be soloed. EVE is a multi-player game, so I’m going to encounter lots of other folks (hopefully!), and either blow them to smithereens or enjoy a chuckle before we part ways. Sometimes, both. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-everyone-multiboxing-so-many-accounts-now/453541.md?page=16)