# Why is it so easy to recover bad security status. Endless suicide ganking in high sec with 0 penalty

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**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** pvp\
**Created:** [October 11, 2025, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-it-so-easy-to-recover-bad-security-status-endless-suicide-ganking-in-high-sec-with-0-penalty/499063 "2025-10-11T10:31:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-it-so-easy-to-recover-bad-security-status-endless-suicide-ganking-in-high-sec-with-0-penalty/499063/128 "2026-01-09T15:51:03Z")

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> [@Andlaust](#):
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> I haven’t lost a ship to a highsec gank since 2007, and I have 15 characters spread over 10 accounts. Highsec ganking isn’t a problem, the idiots who fail at Eve and get themselves ganked, then come to the forums to fu¢king cry about it are the problem.
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> Make a fu¢king effort.

There is no need to be toxic, rude and name calling in a constructive discussion.  
We know your are leet sauce and greatest player ever to Grace EVE with your presence.

But we are talking about the majority of players that quit over a failed mechanic that caters to just a small few at the expense of what must now be 100’s of thousands if not millions.  
Greifers always rage in the forums at the mention of removing their easy targets.  
They relish in how many people they can get to quit the game.  
And Greifers are always the loudest in the forums when the issue arises, real PVP’rs don’t greif

Those of us that care about the health of the player base and wanting more players to join and stay in the game are addressing the #1 reason people leave this game.

Nobody is suggesting removing ganking all together but to making it very hard and costly to do so in Hi-Sec

Why do you think so many games moved PVP to instanced PVP, they were stopping the bleeding of their player base. Ofcourse I’m not suggesting this, just saying it’s a issue everywhere, a big one, And smart developers see and address it.

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