# Why is stealing a mission item only a suspect level offense? **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [July 19, 2023, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123 "2023-07-19T10:04:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/62 "2023-07-20T09:01:56Z")
There’s nothing to “fix,” though tbh ---
**Author:** ![Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charlotte_aufraises/32/378701_2.png) [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charlotte_Aufraises)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/63 "2023-07-20T09:04:40Z")
> [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > Who knows, maybe CCP will see this **clearly never before considered idea** and decide to do it I’m certain they’re throwing around ideas to solve it _as I write this_. > [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > Or maybe they’ll even comment themselves and give their take on the matter! They are not allowed to. They’re all muzzled. It’s enforced better than a judicial gag order. ---
**Author:** ![Doomsday31415\_Doom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doomsday31415_doom/32/379118_2.png) [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doomsday31415_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/64 "2023-07-20T09:05:52Z")
> There’s nothing to “fix,” though tbh Agree to disagree on that. It’s toxic for new players and annoying for veterans. Where other than missions are you all but forced to constantly scan for invaders while in high sec? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/65 "2023-07-20T09:22:02Z")
Abyssal exit, incursion, mining, any activity you are in hisec really. Thats the challenge ---
**Author:** ![Doomsday31415\_Doom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doomsday31415_doom/32/379118_2.png) [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doomsday31415_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/66 "2023-07-20T09:31:26Z")
You most certainly don’t need to scan for attackers while mining in high sec. You just make sure your mining rig isn’t worth being suicide ganked. The other two I’m not familiar with, so I’m going based on what I can read. Incursions… why would you need to scan for invaders, if again Concord kills attackers? Abyssal deadspace… doesn’t even allow invaders in the first place if I’m reading this right? ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/67 "2023-07-20T09:32:33Z")
Do you even play the game. It’s not a question because anyone who does has pretty clear answers to your very naive questions. ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/68 "2023-07-20T09:32:34Z")
> [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > It’s entirely possible this issue doesn’t happen anywhere near as frequently as I think. It doesn’t. The Prophet gets why your weakness compels you to attempt to sway the false gods to save you. The Prophet understands. The Prophet, however, does not respect you in the slightest. You are so weak and so afraid, you cannot even bring yourself to load a shell of antimatter in defense. You cannot even bring yourself to practice your social skills enough to make friends to help guard you in these situations. Instead, you come back to a galaxy in which you have not actively participated in for a long while, whilst begging the pantheon to redeem your weakness. That shame sir, is something that is far worse than missing an item to satisfy the whims of a corporate shill. More mission items than the stars could be stolen, and it would still not outweigh the shame you carry. > [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > Where other than missions are you all but forced to constantly scan for invaders while in high sec? Everywhere, if you want to live. > [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > You most certainly don’t need to scan for attackers while mining in high sec. You just make sure your mining rig isn’t worth being suicide ganked. And that is why you are a professional victim, whose only marketable job skill on a resume is how to die screaming in space. > [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > The other two I’m not familiar with Again, you provide us more examples of your ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/69 "2023-07-20T12:04:26Z")
lets finish this Bullsheet at this point … his last post was about the same and what comes out ? he was in lowsec, could run and someone ransomed this item for 30 million ISK ! He “reopened” his last thread in this new thread [Deadspace invasion counter? - New Citizens Q&A - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/deadspace-invasion-counter/142502/12) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/70 "2023-07-20T13:10:10Z")
This, is too good. He rolled a mission in low, got probed, his mission item was stolen, then held ransom, and all this happened 3 years ago! My hat is off to the dirty rotten pirate that did this. 3 years of salt mining! Oh wait. Bad Thorne. Bad! But what about the noooooobs!?!?!1!!! We have to protect the noobs!!! And player retention! And and and, it’s a broken game mechanic that has to be fixed! And don’t forget, it’s such a rare thing that no one will notice if it’s removed from the game, but common enough that it severely effects the noobs and makes people quit! ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/71 "2023-07-20T13:18:07Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > He “reopened” his last thread in this new thread > > [Deadspace invasion counter? - New Citizens Q&A - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/deadspace-invasion-counter/142502/12) This basically gives the thread‘s „Anti PvP Bingo card“ a three way bingo. OP, holding a grudge for 4 years over a video game isn’t healthy. Let it go. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/72 "2023-07-20T13:49:14Z")
Overall I’m very impressed with this thread. 8/10. An OP complaining about a mechanic he hasn’t experienced in years while openly admitting he doesn’t know if it even still happens, while also not knowing anything even the existence of multiple other hi sec mechanics or the existence of specific channels dedicated to helping new players is a strong start. Closing by realizing that the actual event happened in low sec where the mechanic he is currently advocating wouldn’t even apply adds a beautiful finish. Now if we could just get a @Aiko_Danuja ”Calm down miner” I think we could call this a 9/10 and move onto the next. Nice work everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/73 "2023-07-20T13:55:24Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > ”Calm down miner” Maybe a “Calm down lowsec mission runner” would be more fitting. 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/74 "2023-07-20T14:04:59Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > What about COSMOS missions? You’re just screwed. I had a COSMOS mission bug. I logged out and logged back in the next day and the mission chain was just gone. Support basically told me to kick rocks. It’s old code or some lame excuse and they can’t do anything. Didn’t give me the standing I should have gotten, reimburse me for the tags I wasted or anything. I just had the last mission to do too. Very frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/75 "2023-07-20T15:21:50Z")
OP you’re right, we need to answer the question directly. It isn’t considered a criminal offense because Florida never made it through the EVE gate so you cant just gun someone down for stealing a bag of chips. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/76 "2023-07-20T15:41:45Z")
Well technically yes it’s more appropriate, but I just like the classic flavor of the original you know? I guess I’m just old-fashioned. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/77 "2023-07-20T16:08:35Z")
> [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > Existance of GMs resetting missions proves the company acknowledges there is a problem. I just want to mention GMs do this because missions sometimes get bugged, people lose loot, shoot their own cans, and a lot of other silly stuff. If missions were actually updated and gutted (to be fixed) GMs would not need to intervene. > [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > Eh, I knew what to expect going into it. Like I said at the start, it’s how all the other topics have gone 😂 You have my respect from a debater to debater. Considering 99% of people don’t put this much effort into what they believe in. Please if you have any more topics, I look forward to more discussion via in game mails. I have my stances on gankers, carebears, ISK making, min/maxers, and so much more. You probably have a rough idea on my thinking from this thread anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/78 "2023-07-20T17:09:19Z")
> [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > and that’s not supposed to be a zero sum game. What should be, and what is, are two very different things. One is based in reality, the other is… well a fantasy world of your design. > [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > You were one of those people that complained you couldn’t can flip in rookie systems anymore. Really? I was? Can you find a quote of me saying that? ---
**Author:** ![Doomsday31415\_Doom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doomsday31415_doom/32/379118_2.png) [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doomsday31415_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/79 "2023-07-20T18:42:06Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > his last post was about the same and what comes out ? he was in lowsec, could run and someone ransomed this item for 30 million ISK ! > > He “reopened” his last thread in this new thread > > [Deadspace invasion counter? - New Citizens Q&A - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/deadspace-invasion-counter/142502/12) I actually posted on the forums back then? Oh that **is** hilarious. I couldn’t actually remember if I got attacked in high sec or low sec, but it looks like I was misremembering some key details of my experience 😂 Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. I really have no leg to stand on if my entire basis for this happening was actually in low sec. It doesn’t actually change the argument, but clearly the real issue is that the game doesn’t (didn’t) train you very well to worry about getting invaded in deadspace missions. Based on all available information, I think I was most upset about the principle of the whole thing at the time… Hey Vuhdo, since you seem to like digging, maybe you can also figure out the name of the player who stole it? Huh? Why? Oh, no reason in particular… ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/80 "2023-07-20T22:21:57Z")
> [@Doomsday31415\_Doom](#): > > Hey Vuhdo, since you seem to like digging, maybe you can also figure out the name of the player who stole it? > > Huh? Why? Oh, no reason in particular… BTW, in-game revenge is something a lot of folks here (like me) will cheer you on for. It is embracing the universe which is what makes the game great. You meet the universe and try to exert your will upon it. Hope you go down this path. 🙂 Makes for great stories Earlier you were using that motivation to try to change the rules – which is why there’s resistance – as it is the opposite: not engaging with the sandbox, and demanding it (and everyone else inside the universe) meet you instead… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-stealing-a-mission-item-only-a-suspect-level-offense/413123/81 "2023-07-21T04:05:36Z")
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