# Why is the in-game economy so broken?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 23, 2023, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335 "2023-11-23T10:33:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/22 "2023-11-24T11:23:23Z")

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# INFINITE ISK SUPPLY

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**Author:** ![Prometheus\_XRay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prometheus_xray/32/389871_2.png) [@Prometheus\_XRay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prometheus_XRay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/23 "2023-11-24T11:34:46Z")

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That sounds too familiar…IRL.

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**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/24 "2023-11-24T11:54:41Z")

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> [@Shuro\_Chi](#):
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> I’m aware CCP has an economist

CCP has not had an economist for a number of years now. Eyjolfur Guðmundsson left around 2015 I think?

> [@Shuro\_Chi](#):
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> but it appears this economist is trying very hard to either not fix this problem or they are trying to mirror our struggles in the real world economy with the cost of living crisis, which makes no sense if that’s true.

Well I mean ISK is tied to the value of RL currency via PLEX, right?

> [@Shuro\_Chi](#):
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> It would be really nice to be able to play this game and not have to combat insanely high ship prices, as we already have the stress of food and energy bills IRL.

Most ships got cheaper though.

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**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/25 "2023-11-24T11:57:57Z")

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When I started the game it was 250mil.

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**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/26 "2023-11-24T12:10:52Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> I remember people out of the loop returning to the game after nuPLEX was introduced buying cheap 1 bil discount PLEX from contracts spammed in local all over, only to realize afterward they will need 500 of them for a monthly sub.

Yeah, that’s why it’s bad to reuse same name for different things.  
They should at the very least have renamed it , eg PLEAS or FLEX.

> [@Nabi\_Kim](#):
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> Well I mean ISK is tied to the value of RL currency via PLEX, right?

hu ? Why ?

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/27 "2023-11-24T12:56:32Z")

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> [@stefnia\_Freir](#):
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> hu ? Why ?

Because ISK is actually the real-world currency of Iceland. They’ve been using EVE in a money scheme for years to keep the entire country afloat.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/28 "2023-11-24T15:13:03Z")

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Showing your age right there…

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**Author:** ![Bladewise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bladewise/32/394387_2.png) [@Bladewise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bladewise)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/29 "2023-11-24T21:10:53Z")

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Inflation has been rampant since the introduction of incursions. I can remember the Plex prices being 1/10th of what they are now (around 250mil) 10 or so years ago. Also, I’m pretty sure CCP started buying a portion of the Plex market at some point to raise Plex prices. Also skill injectors rose the price of Plex considerably.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/30 "2023-11-24T21:26:21Z")

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> [@Shuro\_Chi](#):
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> I’m aware CCP has an economist

Uh… no they don’t.

> [@Shuro\_Chi](#):
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> It would be really nice to be able to play this game and not have to combat insanely high ship prices

Corvettes are free, atrons are basically free too. Maybe what you really mean is it would be nice to have a super overpowered ship for free?

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/31 "2023-11-24T21:39:19Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> would be nice to have a super overpowered ship for free

you get 3 of them! sunesis, gnosis and praxis ! 3 ships wich dont need skills to sit in ! 3 ships wich 5 different weapon boni ! 3 ships with omni resistens for shield and armor ! 3 pretty strong ships and CCP gifted them to their playerbase !

i know … this isnt a real definition of “overpowered” but still powerful ships

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/32 "2023-11-24T21:41:10Z")

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Shruo, will a free gnosis help you to stop crying about ship prices?

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/33 "2023-11-24T22:02:40Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> will a free gnosis help you to stop crying about ship prices?

ppl who start crying on forum because of any reason cant get help …  
and i think hull prices are not more expensive then before scarecity ! sure, not all of them but the common ones for combat !

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**Author:** ![Prometheus\_XRay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prometheus_xray/32/389871_2.png) [@Prometheus\_XRay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prometheus_XRay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/34 "2023-11-24T22:25:16Z")

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> [@Bladewise](#):
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> skill injectors

The worst thing to ever happen to the game is Skill Trading. CCP broke a promise with that move.

HOWEVER…I have since forgiven them and have jumped on that bandwagon.

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/b/1/cb154c7b4caa7424edaa628681cbefa79cdf972c.png)

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/35 "2023-11-24T22:31:02Z")

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> [@Prometheus\_XRay](#):
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> ![Income](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/5/4/854675a4fc4beb12144a577dc81e65c8d8d01fad.png)

I did a little more spending than acquisition this last month:

![Novb](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/6/c/e6caad23c7b9e7fd47c026613085c22f356624bc.png)

But I’m still doing okay in general:

![Nov](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/0/7/c0713f8b3ff0a6dac69bda92fa9f74407daafa50.png)

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Prometheus\_XRay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prometheus_xray/32/389871_2.png) [@Prometheus\_XRay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prometheus_XRay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/36 "2023-11-24T22:52:09Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> But I’m still doing okay in general:

No sir, you’re doing great!

Are those **Chopard Sunglasses** that you’re wearing?

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/37 "2023-11-24T23:07:58Z")

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> [@Prometheus\_XRay](#):
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> Are those **Chopard Sunglasses** that you’re wearing?

I traded my cow for them. They were supposed to turn me invisible. And it worked!

Sort of…

 ![Shades](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/8/1/e811ff420e89800023a9c20b162817fdea5763dc.png)

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Prometheus\_XRay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prometheus_xray/32/389871_2.png) [@Prometheus\_XRay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prometheus_XRay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/38 "2023-11-24T23:13:23Z")

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Nice. One of my characters was solid black during that glitch. Not his clothing, just his face.

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**Author:** ![Prometheus\_XRay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prometheus_xray/32/389871_2.png) [@Prometheus\_XRay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prometheus_XRay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/39 "2023-11-24T23:25:09Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> I did a little more spending than acquisition this last month:

Like most people, I spend everything I make.

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 ![Latest Expenditures](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/4/7/0472863e2640f66617220790e7a719da184b97ba.png)

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**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/40 "2023-11-24T23:45:36Z")

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> [@stefnia\_Freir](#):
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> > [@Nabi\_Kim](#):
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> > Well I mean ISK is tied to the value of RL currency via PLEX, right?
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> hu ? Why ?

Be…cause… you can buy PLEX on the New Eden store for real life money and then sell it in game for in-game money.

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**Author:** ![A8ina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/a8ina/32/396998_2.png) [@A8ina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/A8ina)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-in-game-economy-so-broken/429335/41 "2023-11-24T23:47:34Z")

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There is a way for this to be fixed CCP can have several of their employees to play for a while and by most of the items in the game and sell them back slightly cheaper to balance the market and by doing so it will force the market to adjust two more logical prices , another thing is that now with Plex is easy for a player to buy an expensive item there for driving the prices up , is just like giving cheap loans easily and that drives the housing market high and this way you get the 2007 over again housing market crash but that cannot happen here because the money are given by God

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