# Why is the Repair Systems skill a two-edged sword? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 14, 2023, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892 "2023-08-14T07:12:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/183 "2023-09-06T23:00:42Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > to avoid dealing with the fact that they can’t refute my arguments while I destroy theirs. Looks like I win. You sound like a flerf, not gonna lie 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/184 "2023-09-07T13:39:34Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > This topic looks more like a bad case of Dunning-Kruger than like a winning scenario for you. Just because you and many others overestimated your knowledge when it comes to this subject doesn’t negate my commanding victory. Winning a steep uphill race against guys in manual wheelchairs is still a win. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/185 "2023-09-07T14:44:46Z")
Are you about done tolling the forums? This thread has kinda lost its entertainment value. –Gadget has been out of popcorn for nearly a week ---
**Author:** ![Kalrasha\_Cryton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalrasha_cryton/32/385793_2.png) [@Kalrasha\_Cryton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalrasha_Cryton)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/186 "2023-09-07T15:51:37Z")
I love the spider tank and logistic ships for that very reason, unless your in solo then sometimes dual repairs plus strong tank are necessary ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/187 "2023-09-08T12:54:45Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > Are you about done tolling the forums? > This thread has kinda lost its entertainment value. > > –Gadget has been out of popcorn for nearly a week I’ve thoroughly defeated all my opponents. All of them, the trolls you are addressing, have retreated with their tails betwixt their legs. Gadget can move on now. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/188 "2023-09-08T16:23:11Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > All of them, the trolls you are addressing, have retreated with their tails betwixt their legs. But, you’re still here, so this statement is factually incorrect ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/189 "2023-09-08T18:15:20Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > I’ve thoroughly defeated all my opponents. All of them, the trolls you are addressing, have retreated with their tails betwixt their legs. Gadget can move on now. That illusion is only true in your head. I know exactly what you mean with the “steep uphill race”, it was Mt. Stupidity you were climbing. Now you are on top and you are alone. While the others watch you from the distance and shake heads. It’s really well explained in this picture: ![dunningkruger](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/5/d/e5db26fc65b56b75b74f0c1fb20d48bc9ebbe5a9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/190 "2023-09-09T10:18:35Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > I’ve thoroughly defeated all my opponents. Danth’s Law : If you have to insist that you’ve won an Internet argument, you probably lost it, badly. ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/191 "2023-09-09T18:34:34Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Danth’s Law : If you have to insist that you’ve won an Internet argument, you probably lost it, badly. I don’t have to insist. The proof is in the pudding. All your poor arguments were objectively refuted and you were incapable of countering basic math (no surprise there) and simple logic. You literally had to frame the discussion into a strawman about fitting choices, when it was about a simple statement of fact regarding skill level in relation to a module’s GJ/s used. Such sore losers. The sheer amount of salt you guys are swallowing is going to give you hypertension, high blood pressure and diabetes. So sad to see. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/192 "2023-09-09T21:42:25Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/d/2/6d2198a3838de350796da1d9158001a291bd0820.jpeg "[Futurama] ▶ Bender - LOL! Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder! LOLOLOL!!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLXMKUWkJE) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/193 "2023-09-09T22:00:10Z")
You really need to check your ego sir, it’s writing cheques that you have no hope of being able to honour. ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/194 "2023-09-10T06:07:37Z")
stop feeding the troll and let this abomination of a thread die. ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/195 "2023-09-10T14:41:34Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You really need to check your ego sir, it’s writing cheques that you have no hope of being able to honour. No ego necessary. Just objective empirical facts. I pay for everything in cash, friend. Go get that diabetes checked out. ---
**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/196 "2023-09-11T02:00:25Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > I’ve thoroughly defeated all my opponents. Considering there has been no patch to change the skill like you wanted, I’d say you havent defeated any of your opponents since CCP is still siding with them by not making changes. But please, continue being the pigeon on the chessboard. ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/197 "2023-09-11T13:06:43Z")
CCP doesn’t even read these posts. They don’t even listen to tester feedback. Even if they did, that they’d want to keep the drawback on Repair Systems doesn’t negate the existence of the drawback itself. By your ‘illogic’, if someone says armor plates have a weight drawback that should not exist in space and CCP doesn’t remove the weight penalty, that means there is no weight penalty and anyone claiming there is is wrong. What a desperate argument from a desperate salty individual who can’t win for losing. Thank you for giving me yet another victory. You guys really are gluttons for punishment. Keep getting back up and I’ll keep knocking you back down. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/198 "2023-09-11T14:00:19Z")
If navigated properly a kiting battleship can easily benefit from a medium sized armor repairer, extremely cap efficient for a hull of this size and eventually gets the job done, albeit a bit slowly. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/199 "2023-09-11T15:36:04Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > CCP doesn’t even read these posts. Even if CCP read this post, their only response would be ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/f/2/bf2cbec9c4876bbb794534e3582278e251c56e15.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/200 "2023-09-12T16:13:45Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > > CCP doesn’t even read these posts. > > Even if CCP read this post, their only response would be So many tears. So much salt. The Dead Sea is jealous. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/0/16078caaf33369fe8a2077c7307a98d42e814202.gif) Keep it coming. I love owning you guys. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/201 "2023-09-12T16:16:01Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > I love owning you guys. Would love to know what fantasy world you live in there 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/202 "2023-09-12T18:55:18Z")
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