# Why is the Repair Systems skill a two-edged sword? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 14, 2023, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892 "2023-08-14T07:12:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Michelle\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michelle_vega/32/387037_2.png) [@Michelle\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michelle_Vega)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/203 "2023-09-12T22:35:09Z")
Bck in the day REP was pretty cool. But after changes etc less than 0.5% of players even bother with it. HOWEVER: a lot of players will skill up if they mean to attend any mass event - as then they are valuable. But 9 out of 10 times they have skilled it up on another character - which they only use for huge events. If you accidentlly skilled up to REP you migh as well take back the skill points and use them elsewhere. These days it isn’t worth it in small corps or missions. Best of luck to you! MV ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/204 "2023-09-13T14:33:57Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > > I love owning you guys. > > Would love to know what fantasy world you live in there 🙂 Definitely not the one where you have at a bare minimum a 3rd grade reading skill. Let’s look at some highlights. > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > in your scenario the amount of cap you have is irrelevant because even with infinite cap you still die because your reps can’t repair enough, so the amount of cap they use makes literally zero difference > > And again, we have another reply that shows you are intentionally playing daft or not playing at all and genuinely lacking the capability to comprehend written English. Because I completed the mission. I did not die. It clearly did make a difference. So the strawmanned concept of this thread being about a “tank and fit issue” falls apart. Did you even read what I posted? Let’s look at it again for the Nth time. I’ll trim some of it out as not to overwhelm you as perhaps you’re not being disingenuous, and it’s genuinely taxing for you to keep up with. > > > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > > Because I had lvl 1 and **59s more capacitor** (on paper or not, that translates into practical performance), I was able to run the repper long enough to kill enough foes to lower the incoming DPS to a point where HP compensated tit for tat. And then to a point where HP started to recover. At that point I started to turn off the repper and let the cap replenish. > > I did tank the incoming damage. That’s the whole point. If I had lvl 5 I would not have been able to because the module would have shut down due to cap failure. So following your strawman framing, the “tank and fit issue” you refer to would be me having lvl 5 skills. **You shot yourself in the foot. Good job.** You just admitted that there are times where having Repair Systems at a lower skill level is preferable to having it at a higher level. As at the higher level I would have reached failure and required a different fit. That would fall in line with your reply. I love when you self-own the most. 😆 Look at this gem: > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > [@Mephiztopheleze](#): > > > > **If you want to just activate your repper and forget about it, then choose and fit your ship to be able to do that.** > > You mean like the ship I was using when I was in that very scenario with it running nonstop and successfully completed the mission? 🤔 I need to choose and fit and ship capable of doing what I did? 😆 I mean, come on. You’re obviously trolling. I refuse to believe you are as dense as you are pretending to be. I’m sure as heck not going to explain the plot to you again for a third or fourth time. All I do is win win win no matter what. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/b/0/8b0db765cb4a99732114b184249d5946ddc935ff.jpeg "DJ Khaled - All I Do Is Win feat. Ludacris, Rick Ross, T-Pain & Snoop Dogg (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU) ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/205 "2023-09-13T14:51:53Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > Definitely not the one where you have at a bare minimum a 3rd grade reading skill. Let’s look at some highlights. D’awwww ad-hominem because you’re losing an internet argument, so cute 🙂 Its cute to watch you keep failing ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/206 "2023-09-14T14:20:04Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > You sound like a flerf, not gonna lie > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > I mean, a shotgun _can_ fix stupid, but there aren’t enough shotguns in the world to fix all of it > > D’awwww ad-hominem because you’re losing an internet argument, so cute 🙂 Like I said, I love it when you guys self-own. 🤭 > [@Cypherous](#): > > Its cute to watch you keep failing Your use of the Pee-wee Herman I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I technique is what’s really cope… er, cute. D’awwwww! ![2uz7jq](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/e/1/8e16a2cf7a423a3554fcb11280243e10e7e5e908.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/207 "2023-09-14T14:22:36Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > Like I said, I love it when you guys self-own. Which would still require any of us did it, please do point it out 🙂 > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > Your use of the Pee-wee Herman I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I technique is what’s really cope… er, cute. D’awwwww! Except i’m just pointing to what you actually did, i mean i admire your dedication to the cause but, literally nobody agrees with you, CCP included, that should be the hint 😛 ---
**Author:** ![PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pixywarrior_ellecon/32/456340_2.png) [@PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PixyWarrior_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/208 "2023-09-14T15:01:01Z")
The stupidity of some eve players never ceases to amaze me 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bazzalisk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_bazzalisk/32/460278_2.png) [@The\_Bazzalisk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Bazzalisk)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/209 "2023-09-14T16:29:56Z")
lmfao good thread thanks for the laughs ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/210 "2023-09-14T17:15:06Z")
“I don’t know why people say a double-edged sword is bad. It’s a sword. With two edges.” —Kamahl, pit fighter ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/211 "2023-09-15T04:18:32Z")
You can just turn the repper off dude. Further, if played properly, you could get your cap to peak recharge more quickly, thereby increasing your total cap in a given period of time. You’re just wrong ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/212 "2023-09-15T04:22:03Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > **Summary of this topic:** > > ![188193](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/d/c/2dc4809e7fbe6772a5598352789eb96c08fae381.jpeg) > > is explaining to > > ![race](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/a/3/ca36c49841c83f977891d7075e118edbdc102d95.jpeg) > > that that she is seriously considering to leave ‘Driving Curves’ at Level I because Level V would take away stability from her style of driving. > > Everyone else: :facepalm: Haha i won’t lie thats pretty good. And on that note, off to sleep ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/213 "2023-09-15T14:20:37Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > > Like I said, I love it when you guys self-own. > > Which would still require any of us did it, **please do point it out** 🙂 😆 > [@Cypherous](#): > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > You sound like a flerf, not gonna lie > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > I mean, a shotgun _can_ fix stupid, but there aren’t enough shotguns in the world to fix all of it > > D’awwww ad-hominem because you’re losing an internet argument, so cute 🙂 And now, if you only had the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader, you’d understand why what I say in regard to your reading comprehension isn’t an ad-hominem, but merely an observation. Oh, right! You admitted you were trolling awhile back, didn’t you? > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > Seeing as you’re assuring me you have no reading disability, you’ve de facto admitted to being intentionally obtuse (i.e. trolling). Take care, mate. Bye. 👋 ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/214 "2023-09-15T14:23:15Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > And now, if you only had the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader, you’d understand why what I say in regard to your reading comprehension isn’t an ad-hominem, but merely an observation. I mean i’m not sure how you think that is a self own, its just a statement of facts, much like me stating the fact that your argument is infact flawed for the numerous reasons pointed out in this thread and the fact that only you, in 2 decades, have considered this a problem 🙂 > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > Oh, right! You admitted you were trolling awhile back, didn’t you? You know you quoted yourself after saying someone admitted to trolling right? ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/215 "2023-09-15T14:52:43Z")
please stop feeding the troll and let this abomination of a thread die the death it so desperately needs. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/216 "2023-09-15T15:53:41Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > [@Cypherous](#): > > > > > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > > > > but the answer having nothing to do with the topic and/or point it’s supposed to address. > > > > Except it does, you need to learn how to manage your resources correctly, thats a skill issue 🙂 > > > > CCP can’t fix skill issues > > You don’t get to tell me what my topic is about. I set the topic. You reply to my position. You don’t make up your own strawman position about ship fittings and then tell me you addressed my point, which has nothing to do with ship fitting, but rather the effect of a skill on the state of a module. That being increased DPS (upside), but at the same time causing more GJ/s to be expended (downside). Changing a fitting doesn’t negate the underlining position that I take. That being, there should be no drawback to a skill that requires SP investment. In all scenarios it should be preferable. > > We’ve all agreed that something requiring more GJ/s is not preferrable to it requiring less. So we understand that requiring more GJ/s is a drawback. You don’t have to agree with the position that there should never be a situation where a lower skill level is superior to a higher, but no fitting or module management advice is going to affect that take. And you fully understand this because you’re not a moron. > > Skimming through you replies I see you’ve consigned yourself to keep arguing against your own strawman. This after you already inadvertently admitted I was right. Sorry, no take backs. 😃 Seeing as you clearly understand that you’ve thoroughly lost the debate and have decided to just ignore basic math, ignore my actual statements and instead continue strawmanning about fittings to avoid dealing with what I’ve actually stated, there is no reason for me to humiliate you further. It’s getting rather boring and repetitive anyway. 🥱 I can just refer you to my previous replies instead of repeat myself. > > Seeing as you’re assuring me you have no reading disability, you’ve de facto admitted to being intentionally obtuse (i.e. trolling). Take care, mate. Bye. 👋 The only time it is not preferable is when your piloting skill is so bad that you can’t click off a module, in a pve environment this is not hard. In a pvp environment that’s not always so easy, but you for damn sure need the added rep capability. So yes, you are correct that in some very specific situation in which you are so unskilled at the game that your brain cannot possibly fathom clicking the module off, it **may** cause you a problem. This is probably a .1% or less likelihood of ever being a situation you’re actually in, or should be in. **The rest of the time it is preferable in every way.** Congrats? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/217 "2023-09-15T17:53:42Z")
> [@Phaade](#): > > So yes, you are correct that in some very specific situation in which you are so unskilled at the game that your brain cannot possibly fathom clicking the module off, it **may** cause you a problem. Don’t forget to mention that he _in addtion_ to your statement, has to actively ignore _any and all_ fitting progress that comes with addtional skills by unlocking more advanced modules or better fitting combinations. Because he could _easily_ switch to a better fit by skilling Repair Systems higher, one that combines a better tank with an _even better_ cap situation in which he also would never need to turn off the repper, would tank even more incoming DPS and would be a lot safer against enemy energy neutralizers. Which basically reduces any arguments in his favor to exactly _zero_. ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/218 "2023-09-16T15:35:20Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > much like me stating the fact that your argument is infact flawed for the numerous reasons pointed out in this thread You are not addressing my point. There is no argument, per se, simply me pointing out that a skill causing a module to use more GJ/s is a drawback. You have only ever framed the conversation within the context of your own “fitting issue” strawman. This is what everyone does because they understand my point is correct, but their egos cannot let them admit it. Take a look below at your fellow compatriots. > [@Phaade](#): > > The only time it is not preferable is when your piloting skill is so bad that you can’t click off a module See how he completely ignores the scenario given, in which you would be operating at a HP/s deficit? > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > This idea that you can just stop repping is predicated on taking little damage. If that were the case of course it wouldn’t matter. If you only need 1 rep ever 1 minute to counter incoming DPS of course it wouldn’t matter. Why would you even use that as an example? You’re effective making a strawman scenario. **What happens when you cannot stop the reps because the damage is sizable, just over your HP/s recovery [even when overheated], and never lets up?** Turning off the module would just lead to quick HP depletion as you would not be able to regain those extra lost HPs while the rep was off seeing as incoming DPS is slightly greater than reps. Phaade understands this, but has to be disingenuous and pretend he can’t read. Or he has no clue what’s even being discussed, yet still feels the need to add his two cents even though he’s completely ignorant in regard to the subject. Here is another. > [@Syzygium](#): > > Don’t forget to mention that he _in addtion_ to your statement, has to actively ignore _any and all_ fitting progress that comes with addtional skills by unlocking more advanced modules or better fitting combinations. Note that he ignores the point that a module requiring more GJ/s is a drawback. No matter what fits I use, what ship I’m flying or what skills I train, the fact that a higher skill level in Repair System will lead to an increase in GJ/s (i.e. the drawback) will still exist. Just like the sig radius drawbacks of medium shield extenders still exist even if you fly armor or don’t use a shield extender at all. This has nothing to do with my fits, but the fact that the skill has a drawback and there being situations where a lower level of a skill works out better than a higher level. My point is that this should never even be possible, no matter what fit you have. **Unless your counter point is that a lower skill level should be better in niche circumstances, you’re arguing against your own strawman.** Let’s continue. > [@Syzygium](#): > > Because he could _easily_ switch to a better fit by skilling Repair Systems higher, one that combines a better tank with an _even better_ cap situation in which he also would never need to turn off the repper, would tank even more incoming DPS and would be a lot safer against enemy energy neutralizers. Which basically reduces any arguments in his favor to exactly _zero_. We’ve been over this enough that Syz knows better. > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > It seems you fail to understand the point of what I’m saying. The skill is a double-edged sword. It’s that simple. It’s not about any inability for me to fit a functional ship. I’m simply pointing out that we have a skill that has drawbacks as you raise the skill level. Even if I am cap stable that’s still a thing. **The ship I’m using now is cap stable by the way.** Do you see, Cypherous? The IGNORance? See how you guys ignore what I say and argue from some ridiculous position you yourselves concocted? See how he’s pretending as if I’ve been asking for fitting advice and rejecting said advice? I’m literally flying with a T2 repairer right now, which requires level 3 at the minimum. What’s funny is, even in his strawman rebuttal, the acknowledgement that he’d need to change modules to counter the increase in GJ/s is proving my point. He would be countering the drawback of a higher skill level. Because at the time I completed the mission with level 1 repair systems. And was only able to last long enough to complete it because I was level 1. If higher level was _ **always** _ better then there would be no reason to change any modules. He should be saying that simply upping the skill level and changing nothing else should be better in the scenario given, but he doesn’t. Therefore he is acknowledging that given the original fit, level 5 would be a negative compared to level 1. And this goes completely over his head. r/whooooooooooooooooosh 🙆 ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/219 "2023-09-16T17:11:12Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > There is no argument, per se, simply me pointing out that a skill causing a module to use more GJ/s is a drawback. Except it actually doesn’t, per cycle it costs the exact same, so if i with rep systems level 5 run a repper for 1 cycle and you with RS1 run a repper for 1 cycle we use the same amount of cap The issue is you incorrectly using the module and claiming its a negative because you’re not good at micromanaging or fitting around the increased needs, you seem to think there is a situation where CCP should go out of their way to code in a system for you to lower the effective level of a skill instead of levelling up your own skills An issue literally nobody but you has worried about in 20 years, do explain how a problem to 0.00001016071920821986% of the playerbase is an actual issue 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/220 "2023-09-16T17:23:30Z")
> [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > Turning off the module would just lead to quick HP depletion as you would not be able to regain those extra lost HPs while the rep was off seeing as incoming DPS is slightly greater than reps. In this scenario, you would not have enough repping power with Repair systems I, and Repair systems V would give you the OPTION of more reps. If Repair systems I had enough repping power, then your presumption of incoming DPS being slightly greater than reps is false. ---
**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/221 "2023-09-17T03:30:46Z")
I just want to see the fit of the ship that goes cap unstable when someone goes from Repair 4 to Repair 5. And if the ship was that close to cap-unstable, how did this person survive neuting rats? ---
**Author:** ![Murasame\_Masamune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murasame_masamune/32/375408_2.png) [@Murasame\_Masamune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murasame_Masamune)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892/222 "2023-09-17T13:53:56Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > > [@Murasame\_Masamune](#): > > > > There is no argument, per se, simply me pointing out that a skill causing a module to use more GJ/s **[GJ PER SECOND]** is a drawback. > > Except it actually doesn’t, **PER CYCLE** it costs the exact same, so if i with rep systems level 5 run a repper for 1 cycle and you with RS1 run a repper for 1 cycle we use the same amount of cap 🙄 Where did I say GJ/cycle? Just blatantly strawmanning right out the gate. **PER CYCLE** only matters if you are taking less damage than HP/s recovered, and you can afford to turn the repper off periodically. I can imagine you giving commentary at the Alliance Tourney and recommending a primaried target taking more damage than they are able to repair to turn their reps off to conserve cap. Again, you completely ignore the scenario presented and the actual points being made, instead arguing against your own imagined strawman narrative. You can’t make this stuff up. You’ve got to be trolling, right? The fact that you are intentionally not addressing the scenario, but instead making a generalized “easy mode” statement tells me you fully understand you’re full of it. Another L for you. Thank you. Next. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-is-the-repair-systems-skill-a-two-edged-sword/415892.md?page=12)