# Why isn't "carebear" labeled as derogatory language yet?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 6, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443 "2021-12-06T23:25:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/21 "2021-12-07T01:02:48Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/6/b/a6b8d09d6ae8d7074f7b0f04f5e11a65f0fcd057.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/22 "2021-12-07T01:03:58Z")

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> [@Vin\_Vao](#):
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> what if

Lets not jump the gun and start taking away free speech over hypotheticals.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/23 "2021-12-07T01:07:42Z")

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But daaaad, that’s the _best_ part of tyranny!

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/24 "2021-12-07T01:22:06Z")

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Free speech. Heh, funny.

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**Author:** ![Vin\_Vao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vin_vao/32/301266_2.png) [@Vin\_Vao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vin_Vao)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/25 "2021-12-07T01:36:55Z")

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As amusing as this thread has not been.  
Any post that was incitement has been flagged .  
I’m sure I don’t need to say that we should stay on topic here,  
without the use of derogatory flamebait or violating terms of service of the forums  
to berate anyone.

Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/26 "2021-12-07T01:51:46Z")

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> [@Vin\_Vao](#):
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> I’m sure I don’t need to say that we should stay on topic here,  
> without the use of derogatory flamebait or violating terms of service of the forums

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh boy… If you think this is bad, you are in for a real shock when you start an actual contentious topic. Though I suspect you are just another temp and you know full well what you started with your OP. Fortunately the regulars knew enough not to take it seriously. For a change.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/27 "2021-12-07T02:04:26Z")

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> [@Vin\_Vao](#):
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> As amusing as this thread has not been.  
> Any post that was incitement has been flagged .  
> I’m sure I don’t need to say that we should stay on topic here,  
> without the use of derogatory flamebait or violating terms of service of the forums  
> to berate anyone.
> 
> Enjoy!

Ew. A carebear and a snitch and a troll?

The trifecta indeed 😃

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/28 "2021-12-07T02:07:45Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Fortunately the regulars knew enough not to take it seriously. For a change.

Remembered to take the pills today!

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/b/2/eb2b572a9477dda684bd3cb0f9a9e2aa094f7061.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/29 "2021-12-07T02:25:09Z")

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But carebears are crunc cuddly, fluffy and made of flowers and everything nice!

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**Author:** ![Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peaceful_industrialist_miner/32/294138_2.png) [@Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peaceful_Industrialist_Miner)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/30 "2021-12-07T02:28:15Z")

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Reported @Vin_Vao for griefing.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/31 "2021-12-07T02:33:55Z")

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Imagine getting triggered because of some made up word that some fake internet person called you based on your preferred or current activity in a terrible video game.

How pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/32 "2021-12-07T02:35:07Z")

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Getting triggered is like a hobby for some people.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/33 "2021-12-07T03:12:55Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> I, for example, have a rare condition that makes me attack miners and industrialists in-game, and take their items and money for myself.

OMG, I’m so sorry! I had no idea you had Turret’s Syndrome! And here I thought you were just evil.

Well, _no more_, Destiny, from now on, I’ve got your back!

…

Whoops, sorry, weapon malfunction, didn’t mean to shoot you there. Won’t happen aga…  
Whoops! Darn, these bloody weapons…  
Whoops!

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/34 "2021-12-07T03:16:49Z")

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> [@Vin\_Vao](#):
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> Why isn’t the term “carebear” labeled and treated as a derogatory term towards miners on forums?

for the same reasons as pirate and gankers are not classified as such…

the world needs to stop with its mostly toxic cancelation ideology…

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**Author:** ![Andre\_Matar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andre_matar/32/296078_2.png) [@Andre\_Matar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andre_Matar)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/35 "2021-12-07T03:26:34Z")

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Let’s change the terms we use for different play styles / states of being and implement a culture of cooperation, warmth, and acceptance in EVE.

Here are my suggestions for new terminology:  
carebear = player  
nullbear = dangerous player  
gankbear = pirate  
f1 monkey = elite player  
troll = misguided player

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**Author:** ![Vin\_Vao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vin_vao/32/301266_2.png) [@Vin\_Vao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vin_Vao)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/36 "2021-12-07T03:38:10Z")

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@CCP_Swift check out the level of toxicity from the community of players here that believe derogatory remarks should be continued to be used.

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**Author:** ![Emira\_Sultana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emira_sultana/32/298445_2.png) [@Emira\_Sultana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emira_Sultana)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/37 "2021-12-07T03:49:58Z")

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@Vin_Vao Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/38 "2021-12-07T04:03:07Z")

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There is nothing derogatory about carebears.

why do you find it so offensive. quit being offended by every thing that other people do… mind your own business… if you are offended, keep it to yourself. no need to shout out to the world that your feelings matter, when in fact, they really don’t.

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**Author:** ![PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pixywarrior_ellecon/32/456340_2.png) [@PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PixyWarrior_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/40 "2021-12-07T04:43:05Z")

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Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt.

I will never understand why people get so worked up over words spoken on the internet. It’s the fuckin internet for crying out loud. You don’t like it, close it down and go outside and enjoy nature or do something else. People these days are too soft and need to stop taking everything so literally.

Yeah, we should all be a little nicer, but words are just words. Especially on the internet. You wanna call me a buncha names, go for it. Unless I know you, your words mean nothing to me. Words should mean nothing to you unless they’re coming from someone you respect. Otherwise they are meaningless.

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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-isnt-carebear-labeled-as-derogatory-language-yet/340443/41 "2021-12-07T06:47:21Z")

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I disagree with the assertion that it is inherently derogatory. I’ve heard people self-describe themselves as carebears, and I find it’s much easier to say “carebear” than say “players that primarily engage in PvE”.

Some people will, of course, use it to denigrate others. But they will do that regardless of whether or not you ban the word.

Anyway, if someone is breaking the EULA, or being a toxic POS, report them. But maybe lets not go full on woke round hyar.

> Why does it have to be a “Manticore?” Why can’t it be a “Womanticore?”

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