# Why no LVL 5 missions in High-Sec? **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [August 29, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600 "2019-08-29T15:12:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/23 "2019-08-30T22:52:08Z")
Wait… I thought the new moon mining system would overflow the moon goo market with even more minerals than the old POS extractions ? How can the prices for T2 ships be that high then ? .-. ---
**Author:** ![Crimson\_Draufgange](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crimson_draufgange/32/149779_2.png) [@Crimson\_Draufgange](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Crimson_Draufgange)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/24 "2019-08-31T03:42:00Z")
> [@Arcxhisseus](#): > > give us some high lvl PVE content in high sec please. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/c/0c17f41c3a20aa713395f89f5b3f69e90019af2c.jpeg) ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/c/0c17f41c3a20aa713395f89f5b3f69e90019af2c.jpeg) High sec already has to much high level PvE content in the form of incursions. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/25 "2019-08-31T07:08:04Z")
> [@Sasha\_Viderzei](#): > > How can the prices for T2 ships be that high then ? .-. I believe they call it greed. Fact is that a HAC used to cost just around 180m isk, a command ship around 300m isk and a recon around the same as a HAC. Even the ass frigates were around or less than 20m. Look at the current price tags. This is not for you but some market bots directly: Just a heads up, the target price for a HAC is 40 million not 890723750270572049857240895554 trillion. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/26 "2019-08-31T08:24:56Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > I believe they call it greed. I believe they call it supply vs demand. They changed moon mining from afk/pasive activity to actually mining in belts so prices jumped up. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/27 "2019-08-31T09:45:51Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > This is not for you but some market bots directly: If you don’t have any proof please STFU already. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/28 "2019-08-31T16:06:58Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > If you don’t have any proof please STFU already. Of course he doesn’t have a proof… > [@elitatwo](#): > > Fact is that a HAC used to cost just around 180m isk, a command ship around 300m isk and a recon around the same as a HAC. Used to be that goons don’t just glass half the nullsec every few months. That has some (quite a bit actually) of impact on t2 prices. Also used to be that not everyone is using T2 on everything… nowadays almost everything is t2 fitted. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/29 "2019-08-31T23:19:52Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > Also used to be that not everyone is using T2 on everything… nowadays almost everything is t2 fitted. YeAh BuT wHeRe Is YoUr PrOoF ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/30 "2019-09-02T17:43:56Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > Fact is that a HAC used to cost just around 180m isk, a command ship around 300m isk and a recon around the same as a HAC. they used to be around 50m at one stage… ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/31 "2019-09-02T19:07:40Z")
> [@Sasha\_Viderzei](#): > > YeAh BuT wHeRe Is YoUr PrOoF Monthly Economic Report. There is less and less value manufactured. That means fewer people making stuff so prices are increasing in the process. > [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](#): > > they used to be around 50m at one stage… And they also used to be barely on par with battlecruisers… while requiring far more training time. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-no-lvl-5-missions-in-high-sec/186600/32 "2019-12-01T19:09:31Z")
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