# Why should I renew my subscription?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 7, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952 "2018-02-07T19:06:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/604 "2018-02-17T15:41:17Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> … tells people not to feed trolls.

The problem is not “feeding trolls”.  
The problem is the trolls friends backing his bullcrap up.

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/605 "2018-02-17T15:43:02Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> The problem is the trolls friends backing his bullcrap up.

Why is that a problem?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/606 "2018-02-17T15:43:28Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > The problem is the trolls friends backing his bullcrap up.
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> Why is that a problem?

It has the same result.

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/607 "2018-02-17T15:45:21Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> It has the same result.

Why is that a problem?

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/608 "2018-02-17T15:46:46Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Good god man, you seriously have a problem, constantly presenting statements out of context.

Not sure why you are always so upset about a normal conversation. If you don’t want to discuss, just leave the thread alone. If you write something you have to accept that people will challenge your view. Why is this always such a problem for you?

> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> I never said player skill doesn’t matter, I said experience doesn’t matter because that knowledge can be easily obtained in guides. Your futile attempt to prove otherwise is laughable at best.

Ok, another semantic problem. I’m sure we can work around that.

I would argue that knowledge about the game, no matter how it is obtained is indeed a form of player skill as it allows the player to perform better. Do you agree?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/609 "2018-02-17T15:53:37Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> Why is that a problem?

Why is it a problem that other trolls back up the trolling of another?

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/610 "2018-02-17T15:59:27Z")

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> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#):
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> pssst, could someone nudge an ISD form their donut induced inactivity?

> [@Sonya\_Corvinus](#):
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> Stop feeding this troll already.

> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> Obvious trolling thread

Hei, it’s an active thread in GD with people talking and I don’t really care about it. ISD should do their job, which is to close active threads?

And let us then start another thread to whine about why ISD closes all the active threads and why Reddit is better 🙄

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/611 "2018-02-17T16:05:25Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Why is it a problem that other trolls back up the trolling of another?

No.

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> It has the same result.

Why is that a problem?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/612 "2018-02-17T16:05:43Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> And let us then start another thread to whine about why ISD closes all the active threads and why Reddit is better 🙄

Returning to topic, SP based sale isnt going to be redacted.

You yourself used it to build an SP farm.

Afaik, that leaves 2 points:

1. CCP stating a clear roadmap.

2. CCP completing the new space project,

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/613 "2018-02-17T16:07:30Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Afaik, that leaves 2 points:
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> CCP stating a clear roadmap.
> 
> CCP completing the new space project,

Yes

Do you still think that is ambiguous or extremely hard for them to do.

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/614 "2018-02-17T16:07:55Z")

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I wasn’t judging m8.

If it were not for GD troll threads and SalvosBot posts, recuperating from double knee surgery would be even less enjoyable.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/615 "2018-02-17T16:09:41Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> SalvosBot posts

I’m still not sure if he actually does this on purpose or if he genuinely gets confused by simple statements like the one that let him and Remiel trash the thread.

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**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/616 "2018-02-17T16:11:41Z")

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Ow. Been there. Both collateral ligaments busted playing sport when I was 19. Not pleasant. Best of luck in your recovery, mate.

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/617 "2018-02-17T16:17:30Z")

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Those are not exclusive disjuncts, so 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/618 "2018-02-17T16:18:44Z")

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Thanks!

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/619 "2018-02-17T16:19:43Z")

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> [@Sonya\_Corvinus](#):
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> Actually playing EVE got boring years ago, so the OP’s gameplay turned to trolling the forums for CODE. That now got boring so the are now trolling in this thread.
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> Stop feeding this troll already.

You’re absolutely right.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_SkaIski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skaiski/32/126779_2.png) [@Nana\_SkaIski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_SkaIski)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/620 "2018-02-17T16:29:13Z")

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I have short memory so for me there is always something interesting when I undock. 🕶

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**Author:** ![Sonya\_Corvinus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonya_corvinus/32/12161_2.png) [@Sonya\_Corvinus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonya_Corvinus)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/621 "2018-02-17T16:29:43Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> Obvious trolling thread
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> In GD
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> With 600 responses
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> … tells people not to feed trolls.
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> Would you like a cookie little girl? 😃

600 responses to someone who has been a known troll on these forums for years.

Yes, I’d say people do need to be told to stop feeding trols.

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/622 "2018-02-17T16:45:45Z")

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> [@Sonya\_Corvinus](#):
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> Yes, I’d say people do need to be told to stop feeding trols.

Oh you DO want cookies. I thought you looked a bit hungry. Ok here:

You have all the pieces and yet still do not have what it takes to work out what is going on.

So sad really.  
Hope getting fed will increase synaptic activity!

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/623 "2018-02-17T16:50:13Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > Afaik, that leaves 2 points:
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> > CCP stating a clear roadmap.
> > 
> > CCP completing the new space project,
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> Yes
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> Do you still think that is ambiguous or extremely hard for them to do.

Its become clearer to me what you want, but Im not optimistic CCP will provide you with either…

CCP roadmaps have more often changed, than run their stated course.  
New space was discussed already in 2013 and still has not been elaborated on.  
Even if they do implement it, I doubt it will be like you wanted/envisaged.

> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> I’m still not sure if he actually does this on purpose or if he genuinely gets confused by simple statements like the one that let him and Remiel trash the thread.

This isnt on me. We have all agreed that Remiel’s claim was false. I called him on his BS and didnt let go till he rescinds it (which he still hasnt). That’s how its always been done here on this board.

Ive never understood why people bend over backwards to support Remiel’s BS.  
Its not worth it.  
You will regret it every time he posts and you end up having to clean up his mess.

> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> If you write something you have to accept that people will challenge your view.

That’s exactly what happened with Remiel.  
Now look at how far he sank and yet still hasn’t rescinded his false claim.  
Same thing happened when he spectacularly crashed/burned and left the forums last time.

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