# Why should I renew my subscription?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 7, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952 "2018-02-07T19:06:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/644 "2018-02-17T18:31:43Z")

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> [@Sonya\_Corvinus](#):
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> I’ll go ahead and stop feeding you as well after this comment, forum a

Aww. I liked it better before you edited it. 😉

And its cool. I am already well fed here. I’m not a forum alt though.

This is my forum main.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/645 "2018-02-17T18:33:52Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> that does not change the fact that I can hate a feature and abuse it at the same time, yeah, really surprising…

Fyi, that makes you, literally and functionally, a hypocrite.

> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> Well done. Good night

Thanks!  
Someone has to defend the integrity of these boards vs people like you and Remiel.

Maybe reddit is more up your alley, so to speak.

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**Author:** ![Baba\_Ji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baba_ji/32/36487_2.png) [@Baba\_Ji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baba_Ji)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/646 "2018-02-17T18:41:05Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Yes, I won.
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> Even if it took 400+ posts to get there.

Winning isn’t everything. Even if its in the mind of the beholder.  
400 post to say I disagree?

Btw I watched (well two of them) your clips. Wind makes your voice not clear. Learned something. You have a voice that fits well. Could be a good outlet to show your country and its culture to the world. Something to think about.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/647 "2018-02-17T18:42:11Z")

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> [@Baba\_Ji](#):
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> …

If it takes 400 posts, then it takes 400 posts.

Glad you enjoyed my clips.  
Hopefully Ill get the pieces shown in an upcoming maritime art international exhibition. Sculpture is an interest and hobby of mine.

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/648 "2018-02-17T18:50:47Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Fyi, that makes you, literally and functionally, a hypocrite.

No it doesn’t. You are not translating the words correctly.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/649 "2018-02-17T18:55:08Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > Fyi, that makes you, literally and functionally, a hypocrite.
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> No it doesn’t. You are not translating the words correctly.

If you are against something, and do it anyways, that is being a hypocrite, in any language or context.

Ima claims to have hated the CCP move towards SP trading, and yet built herself an SP farm so expansive and matured based on that change, that she no longer needs to pay sub, hence leading her to the dilemma in OP of whether to sub anymore.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/650 "2018-02-17T19:02:04Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Fyi, that makes you, literally and functionally, a hypocrite.

welcome to capitalism

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**Author:** ![Nana\_SkaIski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skaiski/32/126779_2.png) [@Nana\_SkaIski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_SkaIski)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/651 "2018-02-17T19:04:37Z")

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Clips? What clips? 🤨

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/652 "2018-02-17T19:06:10Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Hopefully Ill get the pieces shown in an upcoming maritime art international exhibition. Sculpture is an interest and hobby of mine.

what youre doing art or something  
link please  
wouldnt mind seeing it

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/653 "2018-02-17T19:06:47Z")

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> [@Nana\_SkaIski](#):
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> Clips? What clips? 🤨

He apparently still has the URL for my youtube channel, to which I posted a video response in a thread here. The channel has several clips where I give a 360 pan and explanation of sculpture I made this summer of materials from and on on the marina I live by,

I can send you the URL if you are interested by PM.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/654 "2018-02-17T19:07:54Z")

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ok pm me link i wanna see what you made  
sounds like it might be cool tbh  
sorry i know that was intended for nana but i wanna see too

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**Author:** ![Nana\_SkaIski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skaiski/32/126779_2.png) [@Nana\_SkaIski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_SkaIski)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/655 "2018-02-17T19:10:28Z")

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I am interested. 😃

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**Author:** ![Trump\_The\_King](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trump_the_king/32/14537_2.png) [@Trump\_The\_King](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trump_The_King)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/656 "2018-02-17T19:16:30Z")

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Wow thats toxic

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/657 "2018-02-17T19:32:11Z")

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JC and Nana.  
URL sent.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/658 "2018-02-17T19:36:50Z")

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thanks its nice  
but the other person was right about the windiness  
its hard to hear with the wind on the video  
i really liked the catcher with rainbow strings tho

oh its a sunset over the sea  
i like it 🙂

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/659 "2018-02-17T19:45:00Z")

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actually you seem really talented thanks for sharing the video with me

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**Author:** ![Zircon\_Dasher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zircon_dasher/32/36736_2.png) [@Zircon\_Dasher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zircon_Dasher)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/660 "2018-02-17T19:52:39Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Ima claims to have hated the CCP move towards SP trading, and yet built herself an SP farm so expansive and matured based on that change, that she no longer needs to pay sub,

Hate is a feeling (or emotion depending on who you ask).

Hate is not a command nor normative statement.

Hypocracy requires a command or normative claim.

Ima did not say “dont use injectors”.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_SkaIski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skaiski/32/126779_2.png) [@Nana\_SkaIski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_SkaIski)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/661 "2018-02-17T20:02:21Z")

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Thank you.  
I never thought you can speak english so fluently and have artistic side. I like the “polaris”.  
The wind is blowing into microphone, probably a “dead cat” would fix it.

You live in a beautiful place. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sonya\_Corvinus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonya_corvinus/32/12161_2.png) [@Sonya\_Corvinus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonya_Corvinus)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/662 "2018-02-17T20:10:34Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> This is my forum main.

…2/10, at least put some effort into trolling

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-should-i-renew-my-subscription/55952/663 "2018-02-17T20:14:46Z")

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> [@Zircon\_Dasher](#):
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> …

1. Correct that “hate” was my own contrivance. Disagreement, however, was shown, and dislike pretty obvious.

2. The normative claim, as is in Ima’s posts, was that CCP should not have implemented injectors as they did. The hypocrisy thus occurs when she herself, nonetheless, took advantage of a change she didnt want or agree with, and created an SP farm sufficient to generate enough SP to sell without having to sub.

3. The irony, in addition, is that as a result of her having engaged in this hypocritical act, that now her SP farm has matured, she now asks whether to sub anymore, even though the change she disagreed with and then exploited, created that situation.

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