# Why The High-Sec Mining Hate?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 10, 2026, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220 "2026-08-10T17:22:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/286 "2026-08-20T13:36:58Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> for those who need to go

That would interfere with his playstyle though whch involves donating billions of ISK to CODE. while he goes for a pee

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/287 "2026-08-20T13:41:40Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> most of the time you talk BS

All my thousands of likes I get from people I don’t even know tell a different story.

And you can’t even protect an MTU… how sad…

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/288 "2026-08-20T13:44:00Z")

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How many are your own alts , pRoBaBlY 99% 😉

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/289 "2026-08-20T13:47:17Z")

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/290 "2026-08-20T13:50:18Z")

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Wild speculation! What proof do you have? Are you a GM? Do you have access to the forum server logs? How dare you to accuse me of manipulating the forum mechanics!

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/291 "2026-08-20T13:54:50Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> Uta and Kage _spam_

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/f/c/cfceb72c0b3491458d935cf826972be780af250a.jpeg "Kage no Uta") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yftAssTZguQ)

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/292 "2026-08-20T13:55:32Z")

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Did you not see the sarcasm typing of the word probably?

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/293 "2026-08-20T14:00:06Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Funny enough I think a diaper is a solution for those who need to go, don’t want to dock up but also but don’t want to risk a gank!

If the mental age of some of the respondents here is anything to go by…they’re already in diapers.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/297 "2026-08-20T14:56:08Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/298 "2026-08-20T15:23:20Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/299 "2026-08-20T15:23:55Z")

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/300 "2026-08-20T16:48:37Z")

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Other than the fleets of AFK ice-mining Orcas, you really can’t AFK mine in high-sec nowadays. You don’t have enough capacity in most mining holds (forcing you to compress or jetcan), the rocks are quickly exhausted (forcing you to switch targets) and faster cycle times see you go through crystals much faster.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/301 "2026-08-20T17:12:14Z")

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Depends on the definiton of “afk”.

A Mackinaw that works with A-Type II crystals needs more than 11 minutes to fill it’s mining hold. With max-skills and max-boosts.

If you target 1 roid per laser and another for the drones, roughly 25k m³ are harvested from the roids during that time, that will work not only in icebelts but also in most moon belts.

So, while you can’t leave the game for _hours_ like with Orcas, you can mine on multiple accounts and watch videos, leave the room, do a workout, cook a meal or whatever you like while paying only absolutely minimal attention to the game once every ~10 minutes.

My personal threshold is 1 player input action every 30 seconds, everything longer is basically “afk gameplay”. 10 minutes _definitely_ is.

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/303 "2026-08-20T18:28:23Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> Once again a thread where Uta and Kage _spam_ literally 1/3 of the posts.

What you ACTUAL mean is that YOUR 1/3 Spam is ok, but you just don’t want to see ours?

You basicly jump on EVERYTHING we post with unecessary aggressive answers and the sheer audacity to even call ONLY OUR posts ‘spam’ is beyond borderline…

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/304 "2026-08-20T18:28:29Z")

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If the devs wanted me to stop ganking, they would ban me. They haven’t, ergo, they are fine with it. Simple logic!

👩🏻‍🏫

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/305 "2026-08-20T18:29:07Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> If the devs wanted me to stop ganking, they would ban me. They haven’t, ergo, they are fine with it.

If this is true the same remark counts for me…own goal…

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/307 "2026-08-20T18:33:04Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> the sheer audacity to even call ONLY OUR posts ‘spam’

I’m not the one who’s just posted 3 posts in the past 5 minutes. And you’ve long since ceased posting anything constructive…its all just metaphorical shouting at lamp posts.

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/308 "2026-08-20T18:33:28Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Ya, the devs are fine with you. Nobody cares if you cry in the forums. Keep crying, it’s good for forum activity!

Or(unthinkable i know) they are fine with me too and i told the truth about the sources of what i state…You see…every medal can be turned to the other side.

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/309 "2026-08-20T18:34:00Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> I’m not the one who’s just posted 3 posts in the past 5 minutes.

no…it’s 4 for you… 😛

And btw…i’m not in this forum 24/7 so if i’m answering in blocks of 4-5 posts after HOURS in which i’m not here…HOW is this even ‘a problem’ or ‘spam’…?

My last post before THIS block is EIGHT hours away…

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2026, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/310 "2026-08-20T19:06:50Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Depends on the definiton of “afk”.

That it does. Your assessment is probably spot-on, although I suspect that if we’re talking high-sec mining that 11min will rarely be achievable (due to smaller rock size, etc.)

In a small mining fleet I’ve rarely been able to achieve more than a few minutes away while mining “regular” belts (non-ice). Time enough to check the latest threads and waste most of it skipping through pointless comments and discussion… 🤣

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