# Why The High-Sec Mining Hate? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 10, 2026, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220 "2026-08-10T17:22:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/379 "2026-08-21T14:01:17Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > That channel is a hotbed for griefing, sexism, transphobia ,homophobia, racism, disability discrimination, ableism and misogyny. True actually, miners that get invited here are more than happy to engage in that. Quite shocking for us gankers, really. With socialized regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/380 "2026-08-21T14:01:28Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > That channel is a hotbed for griefing, sexism, transphobia ,homophobia, racism, disability discrimination, ableism and misogyny. Utter Rubbish. I am in the ganker channel not only when I am online as Gloria but also in my AO chars. Pretty much _all_ the time I am online. I have _never once_ encountered racism from the gankers, or transphobia, or any of the other things. Though I do see such stuff from people who have _been_ ganked. Nobody ever claims doxing or any such nonsense. Basically you are a complete and utter liar. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/382 "2026-08-21T14:04:23Z")
Here is an idea. Why not just multibox Pioneer ships to counters SG’s than whining allday. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/383 "2026-08-21T14:10:20Z")
Yet another “no no it’s them not us” comeback, so pathetic and childish of you. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/384 "2026-08-21T14:10:40Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > Your so called saviour doesn’t seem to thinks so . > > Ironic and yet not surprising that it didn’t stop at hating miners in high sec , had to go for minorities too . > > The chat logs in that channel could do with a dev investigation, just saying What kind of an idiot believes all the nonsense posted on Reddit ? The reality is that AO was trouncing another alliance and that alliance needed support. They spread rumours on Reddit that AO was ‘racist’…and that turned various corps against AO. It was all a quite deliberate ploy. Governor Lee’s rhetoric and style is militaristic…much of the style based around the Romans…but its EVE we’re playing…not Teletubbies waiving daisy chains in space. _I was there_…I know what happened. I was even one of the ‘Core’ commisars responsible for keeping an eye on things, and spying if needed. You weren’t. You’re just a sad and grumpy little man who can’t cope with a PvP game. Can I have all your stuff when you leave ? ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/385 "2026-08-21T14:11:46Z")
You are as bad as AO that channel is proof of it. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/386 "2026-08-21T14:13:36Z")
Yet another sad griefing/trolling attempt, just further proof I live rent free in your head 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/387 "2026-08-21T14:21:53Z")
@Gloria_Exercitus and @Zaera_Keena He doesnt even have a sensible or intelligent response anymore. Theres no more moisture in his brain to fire on all cylinders. @kage1982 I challenge you to actually get involved in one of the more intelligent threads on these boards and have a real constructive conversation. You cant be this insolent all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/388 "2026-08-21T14:22:17Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > Yet another sad griefing/trolling attempt, just further proof I live rent free in your head An insect doesn’t live rent-free in a goddess’s head. It just gets swatted and podded. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/389 "2026-08-21T14:23:32Z")
Speaking about me in third person now eh god that’s oooooooold. Pretty toxic too well done. Other threads ? You mean like the one I commented on just before this ? Go figure ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/390 "2026-08-21T14:24:38Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > You mean like the one I commented on just before this ? Which one? How dare i miss a thread where youre acting like an adult? Ah, i found it…nice job, see? you can do it. Keep it up buttercup. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/391 "2026-08-21T14:28:10Z")
And a god is not concerned with the conversations of ants such as yourself, nor is the ant (you) capable of comprehending what the god is. Just be thankful terrified and reassured that there are wonders in this universe that you have not yet explained. ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/496925_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/392 "2026-08-21T14:28:59Z")
I’m not doing the work of my stalkers for them ha ha Put some effort in an look you lazy swine ---
**Author:** ![Tharshe\_Bloes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharshe_bloes/32/491277_2.png) [@Tharshe\_Bloes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharshe_Bloes)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/393 "2026-08-21T14:31:04Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > Theres no more moisture in his brain to fire on all cylinders. If that guy has a brain then I have wings. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/394 "2026-08-21T14:31:51Z")
> [@Christine\_Creed](#): > > @Gloria_Exercitus and @Zaera_Keena He doesnt even have a sensible or intelligent response anymore. Theres no more moisture in his brain to fire on all cylinders. > > @kage1982 I challenge you to actually get involved in one of the more intelligent threads on these boards and have a real constructive conversation. You cant be this insolent all the time. Yeah, i am glad that he silenced me, so I can now passively enjoy the nonsense…and make some isk while doing so… ---
**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/395 "2026-08-21T16:47:37Z")
Holy hell is this thread still open? Why??? ---
**Author:** ![Tharshe\_Bloes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tharshe_bloes/32/491277_2.png) [@Tharshe\_Bloes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tharshe_Bloes)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/396 "2026-08-21T17:03:09Z")
> [@Anabella\_Rella](#): > > is this thread still open? Why??? Because the show must go on. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/397 "2026-08-21T17:19:46Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > Did you get banned from our channel or why are you out here crying up a storm? Back in 2020, after he got ganked, the ganker docked up and went to sleep. However, the miner spent all night outside the station, spamming local and calling him a coward and every name and slur in the book. He then spent weeks following us around, spamming us with various insults and declaring some kind of dubious ‘victory’. He soon found a particular misogynistic fetish for me, fixating upon my relationship with James. At his peak, he went to the channel and spammed it for hours, which turned into days. He would type song lyrics into the channel endlessly, and we decided to let him continue for some time, as it seemed healthy for him to have a hobby. However, he soon began counting, from 1 to 100 repeatedly. Since he didn’t quit, we eventually had to ban him. I recently unbanned him at his request, but he soon reverted to the same behavior, spamming the nonsense he is spewing here. I gave him several polite warnings, and after he repeatedly refused to comply with basic standards of decency, I finally banned him again. He has now come here to continue his pathetic ‘campaign’ of harassment. He seems rather unwell. ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/398 "2026-08-21T17:31:39Z")
Because we have not found the reason, yet. Looks like the main one is because this activity is too relaxed, so checking dscan makes it less boring and helps with reducing amount of bots/afk miners. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220/399 "2026-08-21T17:43:20Z")
I attempted afk mining last night. The best I could achieve in a fleet of 5 ships (Orca + 4 Skiffs) were brief ~4-5min periods of inattention (even with ships and drones each targeting different asteroids). Retargeting and compression were commonplace. When the ore field dropped below 50% afk time periods dropped to ~2-3min and below 25% you were active pretty much the whole time. I wouldn’t exactly call ~75m ISK in processed ore a good haul for an hour’s work across 5 ships (15min of missioning and salvaging L4s clearly beats that). But it’s a change of pace and you can obviously put the processed ore to good use manufacturing. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/why-the-high-sec-mining-hate/516220.md?page=19)