# Will we ever see a new wiped server?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 5, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448 "2018-11-05T17:18:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Souverainiste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/souverainiste/32/470312_2.png) [@Souverainiste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Souverainiste)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/61 "2018-11-05T20:54:43Z")

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''Two weeks after Patch day we built our first POS.  
We wanted a piece of the moon mining pie and also wanted to figure out how it word as none of us knew exactly.  
After our first try we were aggravated that we could get it working and decided to try again the next day to finish our project.  
The next day to our amazment we found that the silos in our unfinished POS chain were full. After a short time we found out the reason for this phenomenon.  
The POS system was BUGGED.  
Of course a petition was sent to CCP to make them aware of this situation and the answer was sobering.

“Your petition has been received” CLOSE’’

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/62 "2018-11-05T20:55:57Z")

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Its history, now, have you studied recent MER?

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/63 "2018-11-05T20:56:29Z")

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> [@Whitehound](#):
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> But where is your proof? How can you tell that the riches others have are still based on old gains and not not new gains?
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> Seems to me it’s very hard to prove, and yet you don’t hesitate and want to go straight onto a clean server.

You can defend and protect them as much as you want but until now they all already understand what is happening and your play on words will not save their honor.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/64 "2018-11-05T20:57:20Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> play on words

What play on words?

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**Author:** ![Souverainiste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/souverainiste/32/470312_2.png) [@Souverainiste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Souverainiste)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/65 "2018-11-05T20:57:40Z")

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It’s history but have greatly influenced the game, even to this day. What is so wrong about wanting a clean game?

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/66 "2018-11-05T20:58:57Z")

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> [@Souverainiste](#):
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> What is so wrong about wanting a clean game?

People already told you. It’s going to split the community and it’s going to require a second server.

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**Author:** ![Souverainiste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/souverainiste/32/470312_2.png) [@Souverainiste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Souverainiste)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/67 "2018-11-05T21:01:35Z")

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It’s also going to make old players return. Many people, like me, has no interest in playing on TQ.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/68 "2018-11-05T21:02:04Z")

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Goons had their lows, that is why they moved to Delve, because people removed them from the north. In Delve they showed everyone else that economy and cooperation is worth more than some bunch of elite PvPers.

Null is now “build an empire” game, but to reset this one would need to make it “destroy an empire”. Just a shift in mentality to change game mechanics, to reset the people thinking and replace with new inhibitants, space barbarians, not space farmers. Of course then the cycle would repeat and the mechanics would change to favour space farmers, after some time of barbarians ruling.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/69 "2018-11-05T21:02:13Z")

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> [@Whitehound](#):
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> People already told you …

You are so insecure that you have to hide behind the statements of other people 🤣

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/70 "2018-11-05T21:06:18Z")

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> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#):
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> You are so insecure that you have to hide from the statements of other people 🤣

No. I want him to understand that he shouldn’t have to ask this question if he had been following the thread.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/71 "2018-11-05T21:08:48Z")

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> [@Whitehound](#):
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> I want him to understand that he shouldn’t

Yes yes, **YOU** will teach him how to think, omg no one needs such a bad teacher 🤣

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/72 "2018-11-05T21:10:17Z")

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> [@Souverainiste](#):
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> It’s also going to make old players return.

But you don’t know exactly how many new players this is going to introduce to the game. Basically, the effects of this change are unknown, but it is a change that would change the game in a huge sense.

So given that this is a fundamental change and that all arguments for it has been debunked (except for “I want it, cause I would come back”), I guess you can see why this would never happen.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/73 "2018-11-05T21:11:38Z")

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> [@Souverainiste](#):
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> It’s also going to make old players return. Many people, like me, has no interest in playing on TQ.

I doubt it. The loss of players from the split has a much greater chance to end the game. Then do describe how exactly your game is influenced by the knowledge of others having more than you do?

I’m also still interested in how you can prove that the old gains are still present and haven’t been simply exhausted and replaced by new wealth.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/74 "2018-11-05T21:15:07Z")

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We may want many things, for example I would like to see all null experiencing kind of “Sea peoples” as in the late bronze age collapse historically (look it up people), but its always some CCP devs with decade long reeaction timespan.

So dont get your hopes high everyone. 😂

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**Author:** ![Souverainiste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/souverainiste/32/470312_2.png) [@Souverainiste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Souverainiste)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/75 "2018-11-05T21:16:31Z")

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I am an archaeologist. Please tell me about the collapse XD

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/76 "2018-11-05T21:21:47Z")

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So, I think something like that would be more interesting than just starting anew. You could even mix both interests, researching times past by taking example of null in EVE online. Live history experiments. I like archeology and I think it could be good occasion to test some theories on players.

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**Author:** ![Souverainiste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/souverainiste/32/470312_2.png) [@Souverainiste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Souverainiste)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/77 "2018-11-05T21:23:32Z")

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With due respect, archaeology is trying to understand the lives of our ancestors with their objects and remains. How people react to x and y would be psychology.

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**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/78 "2018-11-05T21:27:25Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> We may want many things, for example I would like to see all null experiencing kind of “Sea peoples” as in the late bronze age collapse historically (look it up people), but its always some CCP devs with decade long reeaction timespan.

It was sea, hungry, people, and Egypt did not collapse.

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**Author:** ![Souverainiste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/souverainiste/32/470312_2.png) [@Souverainiste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Souverainiste)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/79 "2018-11-05T21:28:59Z")

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I would love to see the sleepers take over. Invade them.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/will-we-ever-see-a-new-wiped-server/118448/80 "2018-11-05T21:29:39Z")

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History is always people. Look at it more interdisciplinary. We are living and we react to the outside world. Archeology is trying to understand what happened in past, its social science. It could be helpful to do experiments, adding certain straining to the lifes of players.

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