# Winter Expansion Update - Catalyst launches November 18th!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/winter-expansion-update-catalyst-launches-november-18th/499582>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** expansion, devblog\
**Created:** [October 22, 2025, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/winter-expansion-update-catalyst-launches-november-18th/499582 "2025-10-22T10:34:04Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/winter-expansion-update-catalyst-launches-november-18th/499582/156 "2025-11-08T13:55:45Z")

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Some more Catalyst feedback

Please don’t rename and dumb down all the asteroid names!

Not only does it suck all flavour out of mining, it also is redundant when the new mining UI shows ISK values of all rocks.

> [@CCP sucks all flavour out of mining with 'Veldspar II-Grade"](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-sucks-all-flavour-out-of-mining-with-veldspar-ii-grade/500455):
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> Why would CCP get rid of the old flavorful names like “dense”, “fiery” and “golden” from asteroid descriptions?! cry Golden Omber, Platinoid Omber, Stable Veldspar, Silvery Omber, Dense Veldspar, Magma Mercoxit, Concentrated Veldspar, Vitreous Mercoxit… EVE has so many colorful descriptions of ores! And now it’s all going to be “II-Grade” or “III-Grade”?! Great way to reduce immersion and reduce this universe to raw numbers and tiered resources like some cheap knockoff game. …

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