# \[WIP\] The Industrialists Guide to the Universe **URL:** \ **Category:** Science & Industry\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943 "2017-06-21T11:26:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Radion\_Raskolnikoff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/radion_raskolnikoff/32/36071_2.png) [@Radion\_Raskolnikoff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Radion_Raskolnikoff)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/22 "2017-11-07T15:37:54Z")
wow that is surprise i thought if i push BPO ME up to 10 than i get better BPC soo much time wasted ---
**Author:** ![Radion\_Raskolnikoff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/radion_raskolnikoff/32/36071_2.png) [@Radion\_Raskolnikoff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Radion_Raskolnikoff)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/23 "2017-11-07T15:40:19Z")
for now i am able to produce T2 BPC and now i completely agree null ratting has better isk/hour… ---
**Author:** ![Far\_Wanderer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/far_wanderer/32/452265_2.png) [@Far\_Wanderer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Far_Wanderer)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/24 "2017-11-23T21:02:22Z")
Been playing this game for a long time. Even so, this thread has already straightened me out (twice) on my Industry activities. Thankee very much for taking the time to put this information together. ---
**Author:** ![Imustbecomfused](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imustbecomfused/32/140896_2.png) [@Imustbecomfused](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imustbecomfused)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/25 "2017-11-30T03:22:07Z")
I dont see any pictures… someone said there would be pictures!!! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Paul-Maken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paul-maken/32/84486_2.png) [@Paul-Maken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paul-Maken)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/26 "2018-07-16T18:26:37Z")
any ETA on continuing/updates? ---
**Author:** ![Victor\_Medvil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/victor_medvil/32/374328_2.png) [@Victor\_Medvil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Victor_Medvil)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/27 "2018-09-27T01:15:20Z")
Just for reference, Never fall for the “You mined it therefore it is free”… Time is money in all things. I make 10 billion isk per month from indy and I can tell you that is the greatest fallacy to ever exist that “you mined it therefore it is free”. I don’t mine anything myself to make that margin. If you never mine anything for your indy projects you really learn how to make money from pure industry. If it requires you to mine the materials to make it cost effective it was never worth making in the first place a rule of thumb. If you mine to further increase the margins that is good but don’t do markets that require you to mine the materials to make your profit, you should be able to make a profit with buying the materials from others doing no material production yourself besides the actual indy part of the production. That is a protip. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/28 "2018-09-27T15:00:31Z")
> [@Gilbaron](#): > > **Youtube/Twitch** > MindFluff: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcDVu3mIiW37rix7V1g\_RQg](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcDVu3mIiW37rix7V1g_RQg) > Has a bunch of videos about industry and trading. “This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube’s policy against spam, deceptive practices, and misleading content or other Terms of Service violations.” LOL!! ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/29 "2019-11-17T20:20:14Z")
> [@Victor\_Medvil](#): > > you should be able to make a profit with buying the materials from others doing no material production yourself besides the actual indy part of the production. I really want to grow into this. Got some technical advice? ---
**Author:** ![Stalter\_Arjar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalter_arjar/32/411988_2.png) [@Stalter\_Arjar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalter_Arjar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/30 "2019-11-17T21:44:26Z")
> [@Gilbaron](#): > > Reactions are about to undergo major changes in the near future Wait wot? I haven’t seen anything on this. You have a source on this please? ---
**Author:** ![Zifrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zifrian/32/514769_2.png) [@Zifrian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zifrian)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/31 "2019-11-17T23:22:58Z")
The original post is from 2017 so a lot has changed since then. ---
**Author:** ![Stalter\_Arjar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalter_arjar/32/411988_2.png) [@Stalter\_Arjar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalter_Arjar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/32 "2019-11-18T10:16:48Z")
Doh! lol ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/34 "2020-02-21T17:25:43Z")
Imagine being such a forum jerk that you feel the need to dredge up a topic from 4 months ago just to insult the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Trololol\_Sisjan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trololol_sisjan/32/179809_2.png) [@Trololol\_Sisjan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trololol_Sisjan)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/35 "2020-02-24T18:34:49Z")
if you read that guide and use that “recommendations” like > A Warden II costs about 1.4m ISK to make. And people in that small hub are buying them > for 2m. That’s an awesome 600k profit for only 40 minutes of building time. Awesome! oh yea… and we are not telling you it costs about 6mil to produce 10 run BPC, and it is way more than 40minutes, so you have negative profit after taxes and job costs so you quickly get opinion “manufacturing does not generate profits” probably that is the goal of the “guide”, to keep people away. ---
**Author:** ![Trololol\_Sisjan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trololol_sisjan/32/179809_2.png) [@Trololol\_Sisjan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trololol_Sisjan)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/36 "2020-02-24T19:08:36Z")
**Industrial Guide, connected to Reality** If you are in hisec, you can try all that guides, go get ideas how does it work. Why you do not get any profits? Because you are in hi sec. Null Sec Old People have Rorquals, getting huge piles of minerals… And they own Cool Bonused Structures with all possible bonuses for production. They always can keep prices low, and still have profits. And Drones… they are coming as loot from NPC, so nobody produces t1 drones And 5MN Y-T8… Type-D other things… better than t1 - they are coming as loot from NPC, so nobody produces them for profits And … many other explanations about “why sell prices in Jita are lower than production costs”… Sometimes it happens, some of the items could be produced in high sec with profits. But when you find that situation, it is too late. Soo, if you want profitable production, you need to go to Null Secs, **THE END OF GUIDE** ---
**Author:** ![KenFlorian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenflorian/32/449998_2.png) [@KenFlorian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KenFlorian)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/37 "2020-03-18T21:25:18Z")
False. ---
**Author:** ![Taquana\_Ractero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taquana_ractero/32/292269_2.png) [@Taquana\_Ractero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taquana_Ractero)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/38 "2020-04-13T20:28:04Z")
With those profits, I assume you work in Nullsec? ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/39 "2020-04-26T01:35:49Z")
> [@Trololol\_Sisjan](#): > > Why you do not get any profits? Because you are in hi sec. Sorry, but industry works very well in hisec. You just have to know what you are doing… and reading from your rant you clearly have no clue. As if pittance of drone drops from npcs was enough to supply T1 drone market. Or meta modules were enough to supply the needs… problem with meta modules is that supply is erratic and most of them are far more expensive than plain T1. > [@Taquana\_Ractero](#): > > With those profits, I assume you work in Nullsec? I make between 500M-1B of profit a day just from industry. That is between 15B-30B per month. All in hisec - and I am not in Jita. ---
**Author:** ![Caskas\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caskas_amatin/32/413473_2.png) [@Caskas\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caskas_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/41 "2020-05-05T02:32:35Z")
Did you include best implants? I use the 005 whatevers for max blueprint stuff. I didnt see it in your guide, but I might have missed it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943.md?page=1)