# With new changes coming to industry are they going to look at t2 bpos **URL:** \ **Category:** Science & Industry\ **Created:** [March 29, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947 "2021-03-29T18:59:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Suicidal\_Turkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suicidal_turkey/32/381687_2.png) [@Suicidal\_Turkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suicidal_Turkey)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/1 "2021-03-29T18:59:50Z")
just my question here but with the new changes coming up are they going to get rid of t2 bpos once and for all since they are basically just monopolized isk printing presses? im guessing not but just wondering ---
**Author:** ![Ave\_Kathrina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ave_kathrina/32/426886_2.png) [@Ave\_Kathrina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ave_Kathrina)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/2 "2021-03-29T19:16:55Z")
Have you though about the actual output ? Like - how much volume do you think 1 t2 bpo can output - do the math on material inputs and then the math on profit margins. And then put yourself in place of some poor a$$hole who paid 80 billion isk for a t2 BPO a couple of years ago. They are prestige items these days, rather than bulk isk printing machines. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/3 "2021-03-29T20:31:59Z")
> [@Suicidal\_Turkey](#): > > they are basically just monopolized isk printing presses? they are not. So your question is a nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/4 "2021-03-29T20:40:18Z")
You cannot just source the T2 build materials off the market or you won’t make a profit at it. Sure, a T2 BPO can reduce the insignificant invention cost and it can improve profitability with the higher mineral efficiencies - but in many cases, T2 manufacturing is not profitable outside of nullsec empires, even with a T2 BPO. ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/5 "2021-03-31T03:44:45Z")
Many T2 products have T1 precursors that represent a substantial and often vast majority of the final cost. And if you have continuously mined most or all of the T1 precursor inputs, your amortized cost is at a minimum 1/4 of the spot market and possibly much less. Further, although I base in high sec, certain T2 inputs I can easily extract/source myself adding to my already substantial margin/profit. I have not seen much mention or discussion of “amortized cost” here which suggests the cost structure of EVE products is not well understood. ---
**Author:** ![Oriki\_Ahvilen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oriki_ahvilen/32/395043_2.png) [@Oriki\_Ahvilen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oriki_Ahvilen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/6 "2021-03-31T04:14:33Z")
CCP has already thought of you . They are going to be available for rent with $ in the new upcoming “Industry Noob Expert Systems” . Jokes aside, as someone already mentioned it’s just a prestige item , just like an AT ship . ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/7 "2021-03-31T04:34:00Z")
Jokes aside, your comment was not responsive. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/8 "2021-03-31T04:42:55Z")
I don’t think you know what amortized means. ---
**Author:** ![Suicidal\_Turkey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suicidal_turkey/32/381687_2.png) [@Suicidal\_Turkey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suicidal_Turkey)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/9 "2021-03-31T04:58:27Z")
so you cant just make infinite copies of it and sell those infinitely? ---
**Author:** ![Oriki\_Ahvilen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oriki_ahvilen/32/395043_2.png) [@Oriki\_Ahvilen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oriki_Ahvilen)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/10 "2021-03-31T05:29:08Z")
Here’s something for you to read: > **[responsive](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/responsive)** > > Definition, Synonyms, Translations of responsive by The Free Dictionary > **[amortised](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/amortised)** > > Definition, Synonyms, Translations of amortised by The Free Dictionary ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/11 "2021-03-31T06:49:45Z")
T2 BPOs can be copied, but it is so slow that it is pointless. Like, literally. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/12 "2021-03-31T08:33:31Z")
TL;DR From CCP & eve pets who got given Trillion ISK assets. “T2BPO don’t have a big influence on the game.” - They are blatantly lying, btw. Ah ok say we agree, so T2BPO would be great for daily login rewards and would be a cool way to put t2bpo pet player scandal to bed? Pet players & corrupt CCP devs “Reeeeeee, screeech”. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/13 "2021-03-31T08:39:29Z")
It’s kinda neat how you can tell how little someone knows about industry just by looking at the statements they make about T2 BPOs. So when someone like OP claims it allows someone to “monopolize isk printing presses”, you know they have absolutely zero idea of what they’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/14 "2021-03-31T08:42:04Z")
Scoots you are a raging one. So no t2bpo cartels ever existed? In no field does T2BPO have capability to produce entire market demand? Here we go folks get ready to be red pilled on Eve online, the pets & “content creators” have arrived. This game is a joke & T2BPO has always been the cherry on top. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/15 "2021-03-31T08:48:33Z")
The one great thing about T2BPO’s is that it forms a tangible in game asset to measure CCP’s hypocrisy. (The measurement is currently off the scale, sand box quality is cess pit levels.). When ever anyone says, “Eve is real” or the word “competive” is used you can link to T2BPO’s in game & say “no, just stop.”. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/16 "2021-03-31T08:50:18Z")
They can and do and have done so since they were given them. Tns of isk along the years of just spewing copies out, brain dead operation. But they can also produce from them. Some T2BPO copies are fairly worthless but many are expensive & provide a good base income. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/17 "2021-03-31T08:58:57Z")
> [@0Lona\_0ltor](#): > > So no t2bpo cartels ever existed? In no field does T2BPO have capability to produce entire market demand? T1 BPO have the same capability. so ? What’s your point actually ? ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/18 "2021-03-31T09:07:14Z")
That t1 bpo are avaliable to everyone on the npc market. T2BPO’s were gifted to chosen players by CCP, gifted to chosen players by a single CCP dev who was backed by CCP & gifted to corporations where T2BPO’s were dropped in or next to their staging for them to collect. They were also given out in a hidden lottery that had some bizzare distributions of purchased tickets indicating that the lottery was not random & its chances leaked. CCP and pet players constantly lie about T2BPO. As said the one good thing about T2BPO is it provides a constant stain/gaping wound you can throw salt in when ever any CCP’r, ISD or pet player gets on a high horse about anything in this “sandbox”. “Nope, stfu.”. Like all T2BPO posts this one will be locked because, “reeeee, it’s only a game, reeee, stop red pilling our player base.”. Swallow your blue pills people, ISD will be along to lock this post soon. “Have you tried pretending T2BPO’s simply do not exist? They have no effect on the game. Oh, no they’d not be suitable for permanent daily logins.”. ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/21 "2021-03-31T10:04:49Z")
> [@0Lona\_0ltor](#): > > When one party can fulfil all market demand at a lower margin than all others you have a monopoly. lol. Do your math… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947/24 "2021-03-31T10:34:47Z")
> [@0Lona\_0ltor](#): > > Typical troglodytes out here defending T2BPO’s, comments are insane. Typical troglodyte having no argument but spite out of jealousy. You are bad because you are jealous. the only problem you proved is yourself. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-new-changes-coming-to-industry-are-they-going-to-look-at-t2-bpos/302947.md?page=2)