# With out ganking, high sec would just be boring **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [December 23, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268 "2022-12-23T15:16:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![JT\_Krieger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jt_krieger/32/457494_2.png) [@JT\_Krieger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JT_Krieger)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/434 "2023-07-18T13:02:46Z")
> [@linkwire](#): > > Gankers in HiSec are lazy PvP’ers who can’t make it in no security realms, where there are ships that fight back. Then please explain the battleships, T3Ds, battlecruisers, cruisers and HACs that I have ganked. They CAN fight back - they just choose not to because they lack the testicular fortitude. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_BeerMonster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_beermonster/32/495729_2.png) [@Captain\_BeerMonster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_BeerMonster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/435 "2023-07-18T18:19:08Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Youre just arguing semantics because you dont have anything else. Lets be clear. I am discussing mechanics that were previously available to new and veteran players, regardless of their status being omega or alpha. You are the one that decided to move the goal posts and use capital ship jump drives as an example. This was not only a poor example but also completely out of context, which in turn I was easily able to debunk. Rather than make a constructive argument to further your point, you have elected to use “word salad” as a defence. Then you have the gall to accuse me of not having anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/436 "2023-07-19T02:05:25Z")
> [@JT\_Krieger](#): > > Then please explain the battleships, T3Ds, battlecruisers, cruisers and HACs that I have ganked. They CAN fight back - they just choose not to because they lack the testicular fortitude. Gosh. I go absolutely everywhere in highsec with weapons on pre-heat and shields/armour activated…ready for trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/437 "2023-07-19T02:46:49Z")
If you go around always trying to be ready for combat that would lead to performance issues and burn out. You might even start to develop a low form of ocd. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/438 "2023-07-19T03:59:01Z")
Yes. This is actually normal for eve. You should be ready for combat every time you undock. After all, clicking the undock button is consenting to pvp. And in EvE, the those with a healthy level of paranoia, and humor tend fair better overall in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/439 "2023-07-19T04:20:30Z")
I still live in Highsec, I am as safe as docking. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/440 "2023-07-19T09:14:37Z")
But Frosty … What is it you desire? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/d/0/fd0cd4511ca6ad8af25aca00009ceb3b5057d343.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/441 "2023-07-19T10:34:00Z")
Look we are getting mighty tired of these talking in code messages. Inform your handler that She knows how to press my buttons and send an evemail! 😡 ---
**Author:** ![Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charlotte_aufraises/32/378701_2.png) [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charlotte_Aufraises)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/442 "2023-07-19T14:24:51Z")
> [@Mortis\_Betruger](#): > > High sec would just be another single player game if you where safe all the time Nonsense. EVE remains a multiplayer game with or without ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/443 "2023-07-19T14:40:28Z")
> [@Charlotte\_Aufraises](#): > > EVE remains a multiplayer game with or without ganking. Er…just having a bunch of people on a server does not make it multiplayer. Multiplayer means multiple people playing. ‘Leave me alone…I want to mine’ is not that. And bearing in mind that your alt has only been in the game 4 days, what do you know anyway. Just another person with zero killboard commenting on PvP…par for the course. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/444 "2023-07-20T09:59:52Z")
this ^ ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/445 "2023-07-20T10:13:07Z")
And how many ppl were using alphas to gank and subvert the biomass rule?? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/446 "2023-07-20T10:24:06Z")
0, alphas are on the other hand being used to visit Ahbazon, dunk everything they want including pods, make new alpha when SS is very low. Profit. No one seems to be against it, which is great. If dunking and making a carnage while sitting in Ahbazon has 0 problems, ganking with alphas in highsec has -1 problems since an alpha can do ■■■■ apart from joining a big ganking fleet . “So making safety red an omega only mechanic, simply prevents new players from trying out ganking and potentially subbing multiple accounts once they get a taste for it.” Thats all. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/447 "2023-07-20T14:09:00Z")
> [@Boags](#): > > Mined away from jita and not once did i have a problem. shhhhhhhhh can’t give out the big EVE secret to success in this game. Mining away from Jita and high population areas?? 🤯 Playing in high value ships away from the common gank areas?? 🤯 What do you mean I can do lv 4 missions beyond only the SOE corp?? 🤯 What do you mean incursion runners don’t get ganked daily in the HQ system?? Despite us useing officer guns and the litteral best abyssal modules ISK can buy!? 🤯 **Try telling someone who really hates gankers this FACT. They refuse to let their world view that gankers are in 100% of HS to crumble away.** ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_James\_Frogiter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andrew_james_frogiter/32/431068_2.png) [@Andrew\_James\_Frogiter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andrew_James_Frogiter)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/448 "2023-07-21T16:34:05Z")
Well there’s a testing ground for how “eve without highsec ganking” would develop. It’s called “Eve Echoes”. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/449 "2023-07-21T22:02:53Z")
_We_ know that EveOnline does not need to have ganking in Highsec, _we_ had been on this ship for enough years now to know the difference in what is actually good for the fine Citizens of New Eden and what is a deterrent. Together we share a common goal and it had always been a stage for mistakes. Pilot error or just not paying full attention when at the helm. By removing ganking from +0.8, 0.9 & 1.0 systems would improve new player experiences where they actually seek out combat pvp in their own way when they feel that they are ready. In closing would like dedicate this thread reply to the wonderful times we spent in New Eden to date. ![Frostpacker](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/8/2/682da9629511fdc62c554bce33646f8eaae1c694.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/450 "2023-07-22T00:01:33Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > what is actually good for the fine Citizens of New Eden Ganking is good Don’t listen to the Borgan Donor Ganking is good ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/b/3/db3c15e3483f22071c57870d7eaaadcf52d26765.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/451 "2023-07-22T00:48:33Z")
We seen the edit… you can not hide that from us! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/452 "2023-07-22T00:50:43Z")
We are the British Borg Resistance would be impolite Please wait to be assimilated ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/453 "2023-07-22T00:52:03Z")
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