# With out ganking, high sec would just be boring **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [December 23, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268 "2022-12-23T15:16:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/168 "2023-03-05T05:55:48Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > We looted outside Jita 4-4 yellow loot and never even was targeted a few hundred km out from docking. That’s because obviously baiting is obvious baiting. You need to be more subtle about it. ---
**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/169 "2023-03-05T06:44:29Z")
Ganking is childish and ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/170 "2023-03-05T06:56:08Z")
> [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > Ganking is childish and ignorant. So incorrect, the knowledge that highsec should never be safe as it was designed like such and by ganking it creates awareness for new Pilots to think twice about their cargo before undocking. ---
**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/171 "2023-03-05T09:18:50Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > So incorrect It’s OK, I don’t mind that some people view my opinions as incorrect. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > the knowledge that highsec should never be safe as it was designed like such I doubt they designed HighSec with the purpose of making the players feel that it’s supposed to be unsafe to fly, otherwise they would have just given HighSec a security status like Null. Ganking is emergent gameplay, which means the developers didn’t put it in there on purpose. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > it creates awareness for new Pilots to think twice about their cargo before undocking It doesn’t. It doesn’t create any awareness except the awareness that ganking is childish, a pain in the butt and ignorant. That’s what I’m aware of concerning ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Fifie\_Brindacier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifie_brindacier/32/373279_2.png) [@Fifie\_Brindacier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifie_Brindacier)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/172 "2023-03-05T10:20:27Z")
Helloo forum😀 @Nienna_Nannie, I can understand that you think Ganking is “childish” or “a pain in the butt” but why is it “ignorant” in your opinion? I mean I can see how it’s a pain and childish, it cuts short any plans you might’ve had before it happened and it’s a game after all and players may act childish sometimes, especially when they’re ganked. * * * Fifie & Ganking ---
**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/173 "2023-03-05T13:12:55Z")
> [@Fifie\_Brindacier](#): > > why is it “ignorant” in your opinion? Because gankers attack anybody, being ignorant of what that player may be going through, ignorant if it’s that player’s last ship, ignorant if that player will just quit afterwards or be broke of isk, which is the same thing. They even attacked Mike Azariah, he helps newbros and cares about new players. They don’t care about anyone but selfishly gank anybody they can. That’s not a “playstyle”, it’s opportunist ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/174 "2023-03-05T13:48:43Z")
Mike doesn’t help newbros. He pretends to help them. Big difference! ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/175 "2023-03-05T13:50:01Z")
> [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > ignorant if it’s that player’s last ship, No such thing. The game has a nifty button that dispenses free ships at every station! Imagine that! > [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > ignorant if that player will just quit Not our responsibility to manager their emotions for them. If they quit over the loss of a pixilated space ship they probably shouldn’t have played in the first place. Stop victimizing them. You aren’t helping them by capitalizing on their inability to manage their own emotions to push your anti-pvp agenda. > [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > or be broke of isk Not possible. The game offers a button that dispenses a free ship at every station to help them generate isk. Image that. Why are you victimizing EvE players? What’s in it for you? Are you a [redacted] alt? > [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > They don’t care about anyone but selfishly gank anybody they can. What are you doing to help “new bros” besides using their losses to push your agenda. You pretend that mike is some sort of poor that doesn’t have funds to help himself. Like he doesn’t understand the core nature of the game. Why are you victimizing him? Do you have any idea the amount of donations he receives from players so he can run his magic school bus. And why are you pretending that pvp pirates don’t care about new-bros? The amount of time and isk donated to new players to get them back on their feet after they bravely enter low sec for the first time is staggering. What have you done for them except virtual signal on the forums? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/177 "2023-03-05T14:17:41Z")
I do recall. You removed two posts for violating forum rules (I have screenshots) and replaced them with some bizarre diatribe, and I’m quoting you here, “best of the best of the best” which made no sense given the conversation. So don’t pretend that you’re off the hook here and I’m the “meenie.” And is that the best counter argument you can offer: Make a slight about the elderly and senility? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/178 "2023-03-05T16:56:44Z")
> [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > I doubt they designed HighSec with the purpose of making the players feel that it’s supposed to be unsafe to fly, otherwise they would have just given HighSec a security status like Null. Ganking is emergent gameplay, which means the developers didn’t put it in there on purpose. What a load of silly nonsense. The very fact that there are different security levels and different Concord response times in highsec makes it blatantly obvious that there being something to _respond to_ is built into highsec. > [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > ganking is childish, a pain in the butt and ignorant On a scale on which your posts win first prize. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/179 "2023-03-05T17:02:32Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Why are you victimizing EvE players? What’s in it for you? Are you a [redacted] alt? Just another person with no killboard whatever who wants to lecture everyone from their _vast_ experience of Eve, I agree totally with Aiko…a person with zero killboard, no kills or losses, has nothing worth listening to on any subject as there is nothing that demonstrates that they have ever undocked. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/180 "2023-03-05T18:21:58Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > So don’t pretend that you’re off the hook here and I’m the “meenie.” As long as I am not off the hook and I am going to take what is owed to Frostpacker! > [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > I doubt they designed HighSec with the purpose of making the players feel that it’s supposed to be unsafe to fly We are told to Fly safe. Wonder why we are always told this? Umm perhaps it is a warning about how we treat our New Eden Assets? > [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > It doesn’t create any awareness except the awareness that ganking is childish > [@Nienna\_Nannie](#): > > That’s what I’m aware of concerning ganking. There is more at play in New Eden that revolves around working to people’s disadvantage behind their backs than both you or (_I/we_) can even begin to understand. Therefore we are aware of nothing other than to what we discover ourself via undocking. ---
**Author:** ![Fifie\_Brindacier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifie_brindacier/32/373279_2.png) [@Fifie\_Brindacier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifie_Brindacier)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/181 "2023-03-05T18:42:45Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Therefore we are aware of nothing other than to what we discover ourself via undocking +1x9 Nicely said. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/183 "2023-03-05T19:09:30Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/3/f/d3fb46bc4c3ad481f4fedb2a2456c3f2e9ce7f6d.jpeg) 😏 And here I was laboring under the misconception that you blocked me. Had a change in heart, or did you forget to switch accounts? [Link where Fife declared that I was blocked!](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-2023-ganking-is-good-or-ebil-megathread/390430/462) ---
**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/184 "2023-03-05T22:45:30Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > On a scale on which your posts win first prize Thank you🤗 very gracious of you… so, what’s the prize? 100isk, 100SP? ---
**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/185 "2023-03-05T22:49:05Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > We are told to Fly safe. Wonder why we are always told this? Umm perhaps it is a warning about how we treat our New Eden Assets? It’s more of a joke than anything else. It’s a PvP game with ganking in it. Twice the dread and… _Fly Safe_? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/186 "2023-03-05T23:09:09Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > As long as I am not off the hook and I am going to take what is owed to Frostpacker! Well, I do owe Iceacid Frostpacker a big ol’ Civire bear hug! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/1/e/81ee8fc5293d830933e354ddf19c7d7f468aec74.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/187 "2023-03-05T23:14:32Z")
Okay Smartie Nannie how else should the news letters end with at the bottom? Should it read _ **have a safe and enjoyable trip** _? / > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Civire **Civire** #Dissenters ##Non-conformist Are you sending the message that you are the Sigma male? ---
**Author:** ![Nienna\_Nannie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nienna_nannie/32/373656_2.png) [@Nienna\_Nannie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nienna_Nannie)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/188 "2023-03-05T23:59:15Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Okay Smartie Nannie how else should the news letters end with at the bottom? > Should it read _ **have a safe and enjoyable trip** _? Something like that, yes. But it looks like the ISD is trying to tell me that I’ve overstayed my welcome so bye and have fun, sir. @Fifie_Brindacier love your attitude. Take care! ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/with-out-ganking-high-sec-would-just-be-boring/389268/189 "2023-03-06T00:25:31Z")
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