# Wondering how many "mega multis" will be heading to Exordium to avoid ganks **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 15, 2026, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972 "2026-04-15T16:26:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Sonder\_Majus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonder_majus/32/495253_2.png) [@Sonder\_Majus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonder_Majus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/143 "2026-04-24T16:45:34Z")
I wonder how long it will take for someone to post Geneva Conventions here. ---
**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/144 "2026-04-24T17:20:11Z")
I wonder how long it will be until this will be closed. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/145 "2026-04-24T17:33:28Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > Morality is Morality, doesn’t matter if its a video game or not. > If you are making someone else’s day worse, that’s not really a moral thing to do, you are hurting someone. And I am sure you are going to come back with a plethora of comebacks and whatnot stating legality and Devs intentions. But at the end of the day if you go out of your way to hurt someone and the game penalizes you. . . you are a bad person. I argue that if your feelers are being hurt by a video game, you need to take a step back from that video game. Every day I am telling people in help channels to not get attached to their space ships. They are ammo. You’re at war with every other player at all times. Even the people you call your friends. Maybe even especially the people you call your friends. Morality does not apply to games. If it did, there would never be the bad guy/gal for you to want to beat. Everyone would try to be the white knight, which means nobody would be the white knight. Games are games, they are not real. You are pretending every time you log into a video game, no matter which ones. Applying morality to video games is like hating an actor because they pretended to be an evil character. Do you judge actors and actresses as evil and vile due to the characters they pretend to be for a short time? Normal people don’t. You suspend reality, you pretend to be something you are not. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > Please do me a favor, as I cannot find it anywhere in CCP official statements that the Devs totally agree and believe that as soon as you log into this game, you are consenting to PVP. If this were true, then the entire game should be like Null Sec. > > No Concord > No Faction Police > No Safety It is a fundamental truth of this video game, why does it need to be explicitly stated? You know game mechanics, so you know what I am saying is correct. Concord does not protect you. They kill criminals. Faction Police do not protect you, they kill people that have low enough standing. There is no safety in this video game except the corp and alliance named Safety. ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/146 "2026-04-24T20:48:21Z")
> [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > Morality does not apply to games. If it did, there would never be the bad guy/gal for you to want to beat. Everyone would try to be the white knight, I don’t think you understand what I mean about Morality and video games. I’m not saying that everyone is a good guy. Take a look at the News m8, there are people there who are not the good guys every day. What I am saying is, don’t kid yourself and think that you can act any way you want and then just justify it by saying its a video game. You wanna do bad things. Guess what your char is a bad guy. People upset because you killed them in a place that is “thought of” by the majority of the people in that place as a safe space. congratz, you are the bad person. as I had stated earilier > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > But at the end of the day if you go out of your way to hurt someone and the game penalizes you. . . you are a bad person. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > It is a fundamental truth of this video game, why does it need to be explicitly stated? well if it was such a fundamental truth as you say it is, then it should be explicitly stated numerous times ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/147 "2026-04-24T21:49:06Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > well if it was such a fundamental truth as you say it is, then it should be explicitly stated numerous times Why? Learning that truth is part of the learning curve. Video games are not a new thing and neither is this one. Some people try to attribute real life standards to a video game. It’s a game. It’s not real. You are not your character. You are playing as something you are not. It is pretend. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > Take a look at the News m8 Do you mean real life? Of course there are bad people in real life. How does that change or effect a video game? ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/148 "2026-04-24T21:58:02Z")
> [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > How does that change or effect a video game? you serious? There arse holes all around. I’m not mad at you for being an Arse hole in game, just admit it and move on > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > Why? well you keep saying its a fundamental truth. sounds more like an opinion. your opinion and others ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/149 "2026-04-24T22:33:17Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > > > How does that change or effect a video game? > > you serious? > > There arse holes all around. I’m not mad at you for being an Arse hole in game, just admit it and move on How does an action in game equate to real life? That is the conversation, not whether you like what someone does. Morality judgments have no bearing on a game. It is a game, it is not real. Being a pirate in a video game is being something that you are not in real life. It is pretend. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > > > Why? > > well you keep saying its a fundamental truth. > > sounds more like an opinion. your opinion and others an opinion of others? A fundamental truth of this video game is not an opinion of others. This is a pvp-centric video game. **“PvP is a core element of the EVE Online experience and provides a crucial portion of the cycle of creation and destruction that drives New Eden’s economy.”** Is that explicit enough? ---
**Author:** ![Sonder\_Majus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonder_majus/32/495253_2.png) [@Sonder\_Majus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonder_Majus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/150 "2026-04-24T23:26:39Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > well if it was such a fundamental truth as you say it is, then it should be explicitly stated numerous times I love this. Reminds me of pseudo-intellectuals, who whine for scientific evidence all the time. Imagine how oblivious must have ancient civilisations been, having no awariness of sun, just because they didin’t measure it empirically. If only there was some other way… Like simple observation by using your eyes. That solves a lot of problems. You know, a tree doesn’t exist unless you heard it fall, right? A fundamental truth exists independently of our observation, let alone some written repetition. In philosophy and logic, truth is categorized by its simple existance in the world, rather than the frequency of someone stating it. EVE is, by design, a PvP game. Developers literally added mechanics just for that. You observe this fundamental truth or … not. But your observation doesn’t change the game itself, does it? Trying to tie morality into this is just next level of gaslighting… ![shame-with-padding-2313107626](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/6/8/468aab32d24649c9a35e70a408a7851242018988.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/151 "2026-04-24T23:52:29Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > You wanna do bad things. Guess what your char is a bad guy. Through roleplay though right? ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/152 "2026-04-26T01:51:15Z")
> [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > How does an action in game equate to real life? That is the conversation, not whether you like what someone does. > > Morality judgments have no bearing on a game. It is a game, it is not real. Being a pirate in a video game is being something that you are not in real life. It is pretend. agreed to a point. But here you are Not in the video game vehemently fighting for the “right” of high sec gankers. But i will also stick to my original reply: > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > But at the end of the day if you go out of your way to hurt someone and the game penalizes you. . . you are a bad person. > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > **“PvP is a core element of the EVE Online experience and provides a crucial portion of the cycle of creation and destruction that drives New Eden’s economy.”** > > Is that explicit enough? It may be, But, that was not the question I asked you. I agree that PvP is a core element. What I do NOT agree with is that: > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > You consent the moment you log in. You are saying this is “a fundamental truth” yet offer nothing to back it. And this goes Well beyond my thread and back to the original debate of high sec gankers in the first place. > [@Sonder\_Majus](#): > > _Lots of Words_ A lot of posturing your doing, but in all, we are not talking about obvious things like a Tree or the Sun. we are talking about divergently vague concepts and point of views people are having. > [@Sonder\_Majus](#): > > Trying to tie morality into this is just next level of gaslighting… wow! gaslighting. What? you gonna hit me with _DARVO_ Tactic next? ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/153 "2026-04-26T01:53:29Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > Through roleplay though right? To a point. But i also stick with my original reply to a previous post: > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > But at the end of the day if you go out of your way to hurt someone and the game penalizes you. . . you are a bad person. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/154 "2026-04-26T02:01:41Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > agreed to a point. But here you are Not in the video game vehemently fighting for the “right” of high sec gankers. This forum is directly related to the video game we are discussing. I am not a pirate on this forum or in game. Nobody else is a pirate on this forum. You’re playing mental gymnastics for some sort of one up but you’re not accomplishing your goal. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > > > **“PvP is a core element of the EVE Online experience and provides a crucial portion of the cycle of creation and destruction that drives New Eden’s economy.”** > > > > Is that explicit enough? > > It may be, But, that was not the question I asked you. I agree that PvP is a core element. What I do NOT agree with is that: > > > [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > > > You consent the moment you log in. A fundamental truth does not need to be advertised or published. It is common understanding. Such as gravity. You know it exists, but who is telling you each and every day that it exists and what can happen if you jump off a building? Yet it is a fundamental truth that you will splat on the ground after said jump unless you have a method to stop you from going splat. You are being intentionally obtuse, for reasons I do not know or care to know. This is a pvp-centric video game and has been communicated through multiple forms. ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/155 "2026-04-26T02:28:23Z")
Sigh. we are not enemies. And I just want the answer m8 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sonder\_Majus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonder_majus/32/495253_2.png) [@Sonder\_Majus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonder_Majus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/156 "2026-04-26T02:29:35Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > A lot of posturing your doing, but in all, we are not talking about obvious things like a Tree or the Sun. we are talking about divergently vague concepts and point of views people are having. I commented on one statement and presented arguments towards one concept. Idk, maybe that’s too much. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > wow! gaslighting. What? you gonna hit me with _DARVO_ Tactic next? I’m not familiar with that, so no, I guess. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > But at the end of the day if you go out of your way to hurt someone and the game penalizes you. . . you are a bad person. Does this applies to bad guys in movies too? ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/157 "2026-04-26T02:31:40Z")
> [@Sonder\_Majus](#): > > Does this applies to bad guys in movies too? if bad guys in movies go out of their way in real life to hurt someone in a game and the game penalizes you. . .you are a bad person. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sonder\_Majus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonder_majus/32/495253_2.png) [@Sonder\_Majus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonder_Majus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/158 "2026-04-26T02:32:42Z")
But if a movie penalizes you, then you’re still not a bad guy? So what’s the difference between a _game_ and a movie…? ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/159 "2026-04-26T02:33:10Z")
> [@Sonder\_Majus](#): > > Idk, maybe that’s too much. It was A LOT of Words 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Darquies\_Shade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darquies_shade/32/410887_2.png) [@Darquies\_Shade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darquies_Shade)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/160 "2026-04-26T02:35:44Z")
> [@Sonder\_Majus](#): > > So what’s the difference between a _game_ and a movie…? well in a movie ALL are actors and actresses know the situation and agree to it beforehand. So they both know what’s going to happen and what not. And they get paid rather well to make the audience believe the scene. But in the end, none of the movie stars are upset of the outcome. Its different in a game. Now would you want me to go through how its different in the game? ---
**Author:** ![Sonder\_Majus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sonder_majus/32/495253_2.png) [@Sonder\_Majus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sonder_Majus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/161 "2026-04-26T02:38:56Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > well in a movie ALL are actors and actresses. Right, all have _a role_ to _play_. 😉 > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > But in the end, none of the movie stars are upset of the outcome. OMEGALOL ![tenor-2678200483](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/8/3/58341a6ac28f08d10f9883a0beda8667704315ba.gif) 😊 > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > Its different in a game. Now would you want me to go through how its different in the game? You don’t have to, I’m good. I don’t really get the point you’re trying to make here either way… Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972/162 "2026-04-26T02:53:01Z")
> [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > we are not enemies. > [@CCP as a company is an alcoholic, and its liver (read community) is riddled with an insidious unseen cirrhosis](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-as-a-company-is-an-alcoholic-and-its-liver-read-community-is-riddled-with-an-insidious-unseen-cirrhosis/510451/49): > > I’m not gonna call you a liar, but Yes, we are. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > And I just want the answer m8 🙂 You have been answered multiple times by multiple people yet you persist with your asinine manipulations. Tell me, do you see signs all over telling you that gravity exists? Everywhere you go? No, I wonder why. Afterall, fundamental truth, according to you must be written down and displayed everywhere at all times. > [@Sonder\_Majus](#): > > I love this. Reminds me of pseudo-intellectuals, who whine for scientific evidence all the time. > > Imagine how oblivious must have ancient civilisations been, having no awariness of sun, just because they didin’t measure it empirically. If only there was some other way… Like simple observation by using your eyes. > > That solves a lot of problems. You know, a tree doesn’t exist unless you heard it fall, right? > > A fundamental truth exists independently of our observation, let alone some written repetition. In philosophy and logic, truth is categorized by its simple existance in the world, rather than the frequency of someone stating it. Well said! It’s almost like Darquies Shade thinks he will change reality just by asking over and over and over for proof of a fundamental truth that he not only knows but everyone else does as well. With the exception, possibly, of new players. Though, this game is over 20 years old so I have to keep wondering how it is anyone is joining eve online and not know a single thing about it. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > if bad guys in movies go out of their way in real life to hurt someone in a game and the game penalizes you. . .you are a bad person. 🙂 So who is going out of their way in real life to hurt people in this video game? > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > If you are making someone else’s day worse, that’s not really a moral thing to do, you are hurting someone. You are fundamentally wrong. We are talking about a video game, not real life. Nothing in a video game is real. It is pixels and data. If someone chooses to be emotionally hurt due to pixels in a pvp-centric video game, they have problems that I am not qualified to help with. > [@Darquies\_Shade](#): > > But in the end, none of the movie stars are upset of the outcome. Oh boy could I refer you to dozens maybe even hundreds of articles about actors and actresses upset about what they were paid to do and decided after being paid that they didn’t like it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wondering-how-many-mega-multis-will-be-heading-to-exordium-to-avoid-ganks/509972.md?page=9)