# Won't someone please think of the Krabs! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 30, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723 "2019-06-30T13:41:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ket\_Viliano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ket_viliano/32/146035_2.png) [@Ket\_Viliano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ket_Viliano)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/62 "2019-07-14T20:46:04Z")
Lol, forget the Krabz, what about the Trolls? Someone, please, Think! šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Ket\_Viliano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ket_viliano/32/146035_2.png) [@Ket\_Viliano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ket_Viliano)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/63 "2019-07-14T20:57:39Z")
> [@M\_Cincinnatus](#): > > Change is the only real certainty. Even the most hardcore of the ā€œback in my dayā€ crowd is a joke compared to our flint knapping ancestors dodging predators with absolutely no safety net. If anyone has a say about how hard life is, only our ancient ancestors really do. Sadly, our ancient ancestors, they didnā€™t make it, so they arenā€™t here to talk. _holds hat over heart_ > [@M\_Cincinnatus](#): > > So to keep it brief, ā€¦ There will only be more and more automation. Likely even robots collecting resources, robots refining resources, robots producing from resources, basically the entire labor chain of the economy. Top that off with asteroid mining perhaps within the next 50-100 years, where there is an estimate that one asteroid may have $700 quintillion in ISK, basically that is near unlimited resources. So, the EvE economy is just like the real oneā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/64 "2019-07-16T14:44:25Z")
Interestingly, as the dust settles on Blackout, wormholes are now the safest best-paying place. So itā€™s time to nerf that WH loot! ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/65 "2019-07-16T16:28:26Z")
So a PVP game gets back to the pvping and your sad? What are you a bot? ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/66 "2019-07-16T16:29:22Z")
not really but whatever. Iā€™ll be honest, the more i see the poor excuses of these krabs and deluded statements like that the more i want them just out of the game; im moving away from wanting them to go back to highsec now because literally its just excuse after excuse after excuse. Billy is unsubbing his accounts cus its too dangerous to play, boo ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  hoo; dont fly what you cant afford to lose and wtf u doing out of highsec if you are too scared to undock. just leave. ---
**Author:** ![JJ\_Joker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jj_joker/32/494096_2.png) [@JJ\_Joker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JJ_Joker)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/67 "2019-07-18T10:50:24Z")
> [@Bloody\_Larry](#): > > Charge the faction that owns the system for the service of having Local. Instead of it being a free service. > > Have multiple bands. Like delayed, live, etc. > > It ties in with lore, as Fuel Shortages are often sorted by sending more people ( which means that you have to employ them ). Already proposed multiple time in the dedicated topic. Most of the fairly replies just pointed that u, with that, are basically asking to take the local backā€¦ at use of the defender of the system onlyā€¦ with is exactly the opposite of the ment of the blackout ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/billy_mccandless/32/374524_2.png) [@Billy\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Billy_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/68 "2019-07-18T10:56:38Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > Billy is unsubbing his accounts cus its too dangerous to play A yam dooing know soch think. Thart is aLIE . Ramoaner sed that eye hadd to reslurp all mi acunts immerdiertly to sho the koolaids that thye our mistooken abart the playa figgers. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/69 "2019-07-18T12:22:43Z")
Yeah I think weā€™ve figured out where the rum has gone. Looking at you, OP. ---
**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/70 "2019-07-19T13:08:09Z")
> [@Saeger1737](#): > > So a PVP game gets back to the pvping and your sad? > > What are you a bot? A sand-box without production means higher prices for PvPā€™ers. A sand-box without production is half the game gone too. PvP obsession is not wise. Anyway, Iā€™ve made my points. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/71 "2019-07-19T13:21:40Z")
> [@Bloody\_Larry](#): > > A sand-box without production Good job thats not the case then isnt it _Harpy #12 plops out of the machine behind her_ ![FB_IMG_1563542316507](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/8/c83dc9866e9e444fc6c62a023d5b829eb4459b52.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/72 "2019-07-21T18:07:19Z")
For now. Butā€¦ As I said, if itā€™s too rough in the production areas then production goes down-hill. Itā€™s interesting how the Trolls always go for stuff like this, with a certain rival game now at testing stage. Itā€™s almost like, wait for itā€¦ Sabotage? Why would people want other players off the server? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/73 "2019-07-21T18:09:22Z")
> [@Bloody\_Larry](#): > > too rough in the production areas Thats exactly how I like it. But dinner first. My choice, you pay. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/74 "2019-07-21T18:13:17Z")
> [@Bloody\_Larry](#): > > with a certain rival game now at testing stage Which one might that be? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/75 "2019-07-21T18:17:33Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/c/0c0f77ceaf79fe03805639a972d40c82cfe4cef9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/76 "2019-07-21T18:35:32Z")
Iā€™m assuming they mean either dual universe or star citizen, but the former is more like a tech demo than a game, and the latter is more like a graduate thesis on gullibility. I donā€™t think either could be described as ā€œrival gamesā€ however. About the only thing they have in common with Eve is a ā€œspaceā€ setting. Dual Universe seems to be more like multiplayer Space Engineers/MineCraftā€¦ inā€¦ SPAAAAAAAACE. I saw someone call it ā€œNo Manā€™s Engineersā€ which about summed it up right proper, I think. I hope itā€™s good, itā€™s a cool concept, but itā€™s a completely different genre. SC, of course, is attempting to be EVERYTHING TO EVERYONE and has mostly produced a very pretty clusterfuck of bugs so far. ---
**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/77 "2019-07-22T09:46:18Z")
If the Krabs leave for Dual Universe then EVE suffers. There are fewer people to gank/drop, & PvP starts to run out of parts too. Krabs over-farmed can die out. ![DualUniEVE](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/c/1c28bd978fba76a2cbad4a9ed9d43805378d73e4.png) I get that the new owners want to try their thing, but a sandbox requires techies as well as fighters. Way I see it us Krabs need to tank it out until balance is restored, but some are having trouble IMHO. But there you go, ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/78 "2019-07-22T10:07:18Z")
But whats wrong with replacing the risk-adverse renting krabs with new younger brave krabs? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/79 "2019-07-22T11:57:27Z")
> [@Bloody\_Larry](#): > > There are fewer people to gank/drop Are you suggesting that the majority of krabs didnā€™t dock up when non blues were about? ---
**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/80 "2019-07-22T13:55:58Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Are you suggesting that the majority of krabs didnā€™t dock up when non blues were about? We ran, but we didnā€™t always make it. ---
**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/81 "2019-07-22T13:59:23Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > But whats wrong with replacing the risk-adverse renting krabs with new younger brave krabs? Where are they? A 4% new-player retention rate would suggest that there arenā€™t many. And smashing existing players hurts numbers even more. The thing is that this game isnā€™t really micro-transactions. You save up, & then invest in an expansion ( maybe 10 skill injectors and a carrier skillbook or 2 ). Strategic Investment. Dare I say it, a macro-transaction. Well, thatā€™s how I was taught etc. Itā€™s not kids throwing pocket-money at the screen like how Fortnite works. With a different business model you have to think differently. EVE is math, not kids with pocket-money. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723.md?page=5)