# Won't someone please think of the Krabs!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 30, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723 "2019-06-30T13:41:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/82 "2019-07-22T14:08:48Z")

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And nature abhors a vacuum.

Its only been a week. Of course the krabs who unsub or dont return will be replaced.

The Alliances need that sweet rental cash flow.

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/83 "2019-07-22T17:13:25Z")

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25k online at this moment. I guess that pretty much answers the question of whether everyone is leaving.

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**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/84 "2019-07-26T15:50:59Z")

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Production is still happening… Just because you don’t undock doesn’t mean that anyone else isn’t…

Hide in your station things are still happening.

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/85 "2019-07-29T16:56:24Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> 25k online at this moment. I guess that pretty much answers the question of whether everyone is leaving.

Used to be 50k. Which is the point quite a few of us are making.

50k meant plenty of fleets.

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**Author:** ![Eadwulf\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eadwulf_ronuken/32/378790_2.png) [@Eadwulf\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eadwulf_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/86 "2019-07-29T17:09:28Z")

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> [@Bloody\_Larry](#):
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> > 25k online at this moment. I guess that pretty much answers the question of whether everyone is leaving.
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> Used to be 50k. Which is the point quite a few of us are making.
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> 50k meant plenty of fleets.

There haven’t been 50k players in 5 years. This is old news.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/87 "2019-07-29T20:35:38Z")

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> [@Bloody\_Larry](#):
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> 50k meant plenty of _bots_.

.FIFY

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/88 "2019-07-30T02:46:41Z")

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Doesn’t everyone who remembers that need a cane to walk now?

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**Author:** ![Theo\_Herald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theo_herald/32/151423_2.png) [@Theo\_Herald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theo_Herald)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/89 "2019-07-30T04:02:35Z")

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![picard_facepalm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/5/85a29d7c5e45426a95f65f2fb23ccc21efc8b05b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/90 "2019-07-30T04:22:35Z")

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/91 "2019-07-30T04:27:49Z")

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While I am a fan of Robert Reich, CCP is a business.

So they have 2 choices, go after millennials who have next to no rights at work, who barely earn anything and who will soon be working 80 hours a week as they vote to have their own workers rights removed.

OR

They can aim the game at an older audience who has money, time and hi-speed internet connections but who are aware that time is a clock and money gives you what you want.

Hardly a choice.

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**Author:** ![JITA\_Fan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jita_fan/32/150791_2.png) [@JITA\_Fan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JITA_Fan)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/92 "2019-07-30T04:43:31Z")

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They want your money. CCP is trash.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/93 "2019-07-30T08:49:27Z")

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You go into a shop to buy some bread. They want money for it - you don’t even have the option of getting a more restricted bread for free. Does that make the shop trash ?

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/94 "2019-08-19T08:42:03Z")

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Just an update on this one.

ISK comes from Bounties. There is too much ISK in the game, which is why PLEX price has gone up.

Inflation in EVE is at about 10% apparently. That is an Economy that is over-heating.

Ore is taken out of the game by ganking ( stuff destroyed ). ISK isn’t. When you buy the ship you exchange ISK for stuff, so ISK is not destroyed.

Which means that Concord needs to charge more.

We already have stations upping their Taxes. That is one option. But if Concord charges for services in Null then that would be a second option. The end of the Blackout.

In Lore it would simply be Concord deploying more people from the various star-systems, and paying them. In game we’d get Local back.

It’s got to be better than slaughtering newbs, which seems to be the main issue with Blackout IMHO.

Just my tuppence.

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**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/95 "2019-08-19T10:39:34Z")

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Real money transfer and game input automation , damage and unballance EVE.

EVE online is a game.  
A spare time activity.  
Not for making real world money.  
If someone needs real world money.  
They should work a real job.

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**Author:** ![Bloody\_Larry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bloody_larry/32/151459_2.png) [@Bloody\_Larry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bloody_Larry)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/96 "2019-08-19T10:54:01Z")

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Erm, I was referring to Concord taking ISK out of the game. Pretty obviously too I thought.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/97 "2019-08-19T17:12:20Z")

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> [@Bloody\_Larry](#):
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> Ore is taken out of the game by ganking ( stuff destroyed ). ISK isn’t. When you buy the ship you exchange ISK for stuff, so ISK is not destroyed.

Isn’t the isk that purchased the destroyed ship ‘taken out of the game’ ?

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**Author:** ![Harabec\_Ojutai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harabec_ojutai/32/212638_2.png) [@Harabec\_Ojutai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harabec_Ojutai)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/98 "2019-08-19T17:17:05Z")

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Not really. Presumably the person you purchased the ship from used that ISK somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/99 "2019-08-19T17:34:51Z")

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No. The isk that purchased the destroyed ship is transferred to another person, but it still exists in the game.

Destroying ships is actually a net generator of ISK through insurance.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/100 "2019-08-19T17:49:20Z")

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So… then… if they took away CONCORD… then they could control inflation better?

_squints as if trying to do complex maths_

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wont-someone-please-think-of-the-krabs/170723/103 "2019-08-19T18:12:22Z")

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When I started it was like 10k…

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