# Worse Halloween event in a game - thank you EVE business dep **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 6, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954 "2023-10-06T15:07:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/181 "2023-10-08T21:57:28Z")
Well… At least y’all have a knack to turn a boring thread into a soap opera. Very entertaining. Better than what Hollywood puts out nowadays. Bravo. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/182 "2023-10-08T22:00:06Z")
lol, I’m surprised nobody has spellchecked me for typing goggle instead of google… ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/183 "2023-10-08T22:00:55Z")
I saw it but I’ve used your pve guides before so I didn’t wanna say anything. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/184 "2023-10-08T22:01:56Z")
Hey, we’re all human… Well, most of us… ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/185 "2023-10-08T22:02:12Z")
> [@Every\_One](#): > > Lemme guess, I should have checked YT vids of last year, YES IF YOU ARE COMING FROM 2008 EVE!!? 😂 That really has been the main point of this thread is the lack of research and effort. I sure would and network with people to ask how PVE/PVP has changed. Many helpers in game would love to answer your questions. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/186 "2023-10-08T22:02:27Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > spellchecked me for typing goggle instead of google It should be spelled d-u-c-k d-u-c-k g-o Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/187 "2023-10-08T23:12:02Z")
> [@Every\_One](#): > > Let’s say I came unprepared (should have had heavy missiles instead and rely more on their damage). Precision cruise missiles and target painters/webs > [@Every\_One](#): > > This warp scrambler literally is made only for you to lose a ship, which might be some KPI. There is then a X % chance you will buy some plex. Yes and warp scrmbling rats have existed for atleast the last 19 years, not new 😛 > [@Every\_One](#): > > The HUGE range of loot from what I’ve saw between 5 mil and 90 mil, adheres to the gambling brain of players, some more than others. Thats how loot drops work, even in level 4 missions there are a number of missions that can drop high value items, the same with faction spawns, again not a new thing ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/188 "2023-10-08T23:52:18Z")
You know what. I do admire that OP has came back to at least provide extra thoughts. Most don’t. Usually leave in shame or dig their heads in the sand more. ---
**Author:** ![Every\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/every_one/32/422987_2.png) [@Every\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Every_One)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/189 "2023-10-09T00:33:34Z")
The post wasn’t meant to flame and I do check it, but there’s just so much I can say about this. The event is bad, and should be worked on little by little each year, small iteration to perfection. Not just dump it and leave. This is again the business dep. handle that assigns the hours and priority out of their ass and don’t communicate with the lead designers that might know how to make things fun for EVERYONE, not for the hardcore PVPers that loot stuff, or hardcore PVErs that know the wiki by heart. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/190 "2023-10-09T00:41:04Z")
Yah if I am pitching ideas to my boss/superiors I would not use titles such as this thread. **Calling something the worse event in the game may not work with a lot of people** … I mean… I hope you are not this divisive in RL 😂 Since you talk a lot about business and whatnot. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/191 "2023-10-09T00:58:32Z")
He probably plays factorio a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/192 "2023-10-09T01:27:25Z")
> [@Every\_One](#): > > not for the hardcore PVPers that loot stuff Hate to break it to you, but EVE is a PVP-focused game. > [@Every\_One](#): > > or hardcore PVErs that know the wiki by heart. Its called Google. You can literally spend 5 seconds bringing it up and reading what you need. No need to memorize anything. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/193 "2023-10-09T01:34:38Z")
> [@Every\_One](#): > > hardcore PVErs that know the wiki by heart It doesn’t matter, I looked it up, watched videos, etc. and still got scammed by a bad spawn. CCP clearly has a resource retention problem and one of their solutions is to do cheaty things like this and in abyssals to churn more ships. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/194 "2023-10-09T03:17:51Z")
> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#): > > got scammed by a bad spawn. There is no bad spawn for a good pilot with a proper fit. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/196 "2023-10-09T07:52:48Z")
> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#): > > and still got scammed by a bad spawn scammed by an npc ? did he promise to double his drops if you didn’t shoot him first ? Excuse me, CCP, that improved AI you were talking about some time back is getting out of control… already… 🤪 > [@Michael\_Gryffith](#): > > The battleship is supposed to spawn AFTER you kill the two waves in the last pocket. Hmmm, it’s far more likely he’s on a timer. If you don’t kill the waves fast enough then he will be there with the rest. Same mechanic seen in other event sites over the years. ---
**Author:** ![WhamyKablamy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whamykablamy/32/386793_2.png) [@WhamyKablamy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WhamyKablamy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/197 "2023-10-09T10:31:55Z")
I just wish they’d update the event so newer players could be involved more. Something like a selection of sites with DED like restrictions, so a newer player might have a chance to run them in something like a cruiser or below. I think just as much PvP could happen if there were sites that had sub-BS, and maybe T3C restrictions on them, and it might actually encourage newer players to have a try. When everyone is running around in marauders, T3Cs and battleshps, it pretty much excludes half of the event’s content from people that have been in the game under a couple of years. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/198 "2023-10-09T10:32:56Z")
> [@WhamyKablamy](#): > > so a newer player Not all content is for “newer players” nor should it be. ---
**Author:** ![WhamyKablamy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whamykablamy/32/386793_2.png) [@WhamyKablamy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WhamyKablamy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/199 "2023-10-09T10:34:40Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > Not all content is for “newer players” nor should it be. Why not? ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/200 "2023-10-09T10:37:03Z")
If everything is easy and can be done in a crap fit drake then what’s the point of improving and having better/cooler ships. The world, and EVE, doesn’t need more participation trophies. ---
**Author:** ![WhamyKablamy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whamykablamy/32/386793_2.png) [@WhamyKablamy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WhamyKablamy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/201 "2023-10-09T10:39:48Z")
Better loot? I didn’t say it should be easy or it should be the same rewards. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954.md?page=11)