# Worse Halloween event in a game - thank you EVE business dep **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 6, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954 "2023-10-06T15:07:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/282 "2023-10-10T14:01:13Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Well, this thread derailed rather quickly… You either fly bling and risk losing it to gankers or fly cheap and risk losing it to the rats, not much else to be said really. > [@Every\_One](#): > > It looks designed to get your expensive BS popped ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/283 "2023-10-10T18:17:29Z")
> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#): > > I can’t think of anything under half a billion that can do these sites, is that incorrect? Yes thats incorrect. Basically any HAC can beat them easily. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/284 "2023-10-10T18:27:50Z")
People are used to Gila prices and then bling them out with fancy med shield boosters. Most don’t even know that HACS (and CS for that matter) are cheap as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/285 "2023-10-10T19:46:48Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Basically any HAC First it was “basically any BC” Then it’s “basically any HAC”… I wouldn’t take a cerberus into these but you do you. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/286 "2023-10-10T23:03:28Z")
Well both can do it, I wouldn’t trust a T1 cruiser to do it though. ---
**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/287 "2023-10-10T23:39:34Z")
This is, hands down, the best Halloween event I have ever seen in a game. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/288 "2023-10-11T04:39:56Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > > [@Phaade](#): > > > > Neither of those things are significantly relevant to the suggestion of granting younger players more access to event sites by adding easier, lower reward sites, possibly gated. > > We’ve provided a critique of how your suggestion does not work over 50 posts ago and you still haven’t wrapped your head around it, instead falling back to the generic goal. > > Great generic goal 👍 but no one is talking about it. The only thing we are talking about is your concrete proposal for achieving it (gated for smaller ships) which you’re literally mentioning here again and we’ve already critiqued. Reflects reading zero posts and zero critical thought. > > It’s no one’s problem except yours that the past 50 posts have poked a hole in that idea and you decided „no“ and stopped listening. > > You can keep pretending I’m the problem but it’s not fooling anyone and the thread has moved on. So am I, I’m not interested in your goalpost-moving-but-not-really weird „I don’t know what’s going on“ freak out 2nd Edition. (1st edition was: You last did this over me suggesting to not make fun of people who PvP in groups, and 2 times starts to form a trend line). > > * * * > > Edit: > > A total digression that needs no further reply: > > > [@Phaade](#): > > > > Is English not your native tongue? > > You might think you’re coming across like Samuel Jackson from Pulp Fiction, but everyone reads your message like it’s from my xenophobic anti-immigrant uncle. > > What if it genuinely wasn’t? Does that idea make you feel better, making fun of an ESL person? Do you like putting yourself in the company of others who hate non native English speakers? We all know who _those_ people are. Do you enjoy the idea of having to follow up with explaining yourself how you don’t hate people based on their language spoken, and that you’re not one of _those_ people? /facepalm ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/289 "2023-10-11T04:41:34Z")
A t2 HAC runs it just fine, munin or zealot, I’m sure there are others ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/290 "2023-10-11T04:42:18Z")
Cerbs can run them. Pretty sure most BCs can run them too. T1 cruisers just might lack the damage to overcome the Overseers tank at the end, but these can run them in groups easily. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/291 "2023-10-12T09:15:09Z")
> [@Every\_One](#): > > I would love to enjoy these sites myself as well. Even if they would be lower difficulty for less loot (as people mentioned my skills might be lacking, though i got no problem running any L4 missions). > > I’d love to micro manage my drones too in there, but when they get popped instantly, and a gecko almost dies in 10 sec from a BS, then I think there’s a bigger issue with drone afkers. Yeah, right. I don’t believe you when you say you have no problems running “any L4 mission”. There are some missions in which drone aggro, neuts, weapon disrupts, webs and points are an everpresent threat. Anti-ammar and blood raider missions in parictular. Hence, I call you out on being able to run any L4 mission without problems if you can’t run these sites. Basically any fit capable of running C3 combat sites should have no issues with L4 missions or this event. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/292 "2023-10-12T09:22:29Z")
Some L4 missions are harder than this. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/293 "2023-10-12T09:26:59Z")
And while we are on this: there are quite a few L4 misssions with a combination of points, webs, neuts and weapon disrupts. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/294 "2023-10-12T09:35:04Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > Some L4 missions are harder than this. Some missions as a whole, yes. The rats in there in a ship to ship comparison, not. Not counting Burners of course. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/295 "2023-10-12T13:34:30Z")
> [@Every\_One](#): > > **1. Drones are targeted.** > The NPCs target drones and pop them in 2 shots, If you have a drone boat, good luck with that. > This is the most ridiculous “feature” in EVE: rats that target drones. > Drone boats are literally useless in this event, useless in sleeper sites, and in a few other circumstances. Btw, I have seen miners doing this carebear site with gilas and rattlesnakes… both drone boats. And they had 0 problems in doing so. Why is this miner lying about how difficult is to use drones? ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/296 "2023-10-13T00:06:35Z")
> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#): > > Why is this miner lying about how difficult is to use drones? Its harder to use drones when youre half-afk the entire time. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/297 "2023-10-13T12:21:22Z")
> [@Every\_One](#): > > i got no problem running any L4 missions This is a poor measure. Level 4 missions are so unbelievably easy and so many people seem to think they indicate a level of skill. I can make an alt tomorrow and by the time it has 6-8m skill points they’ll be completely unkillable by the NPCs in any level 4 mission in the game, tanking the whole room, whatever. NPCs in level 4s are barely even bots. They almost all just approach to optimal and shoot with minimal ewar of any kind. If you want to see meaningful PvE in Eve you need to start looking at higher end combat sites, FOBs, incursions, Triglavians, etc that require actual teamwork and strategy not just a passable-fit marauder. ---
**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/298 "2023-10-13T12:39:33Z")
Any event with 90% loot drops is a great event from where I’m sitting. It’s basically the only thing that motivates me to play EVE nowadays. So yeah, thanks CCP! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/299 "2023-10-13T12:43:43Z")
> [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](#): > > 90% loot drops is a great event Imagine if they also added the implants drop to it as well. 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/300 "2023-10-13T13:08:45Z")
Like others had said in the past and present. Use a non drone ship or just wing it in a fleet. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/301 "2023-10-13T13:10:31Z")
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