# Worse Halloween event in a game - thank you EVE business dep

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 6, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954 "2023-10-06T15:07:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/448 "2023-10-24T18:32:17Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> My ONE regret is not doing PVP stuff during the trig war. I loved that mechanic where some HS systems turned to LS for PVP.

Yeah, no idea why CCP didn’t keep this one up. So exciting. Every month three highsec systems should be attacked by the Triglavians, if the capsuleers can defend it, it stays HighSec. If they fail, it gets added to Pochven. Really really nice content driver. After some timere there would be huge player coalitions trying to ruin highsec by supporting the trigs, and others forced to fight them else they lose more and more HS systems relevant for their business, trade routes, wardecs and whatnot. The idea that capsuleer decisions could really _shape_ the universe in some kind was a really cool one. A shame they abanoned it.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_nijushiho/32/385189_2.png) [@Doctor\_Nijushiho](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Nijushiho)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/449 "2023-10-24T18:52:08Z")

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Talking about pvp in high sec, I’d like to see racial standings cause criminal tags. Amarr go to gallente or minmatar space and they are war targets everywhere. Could lead to some easy HS pvp at the small gang level with people from one space crossing into the other. At least for a period of time if not permanently. I enjoyed Bullard small gang battles as part of home defense.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/450 "2023-10-24T19:31:36Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Now now Io,
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> Don’t forget, EvE is pay to win, and someone could purchase all the skill injectors and plex to meet the requirements to fly a T2 battleship on day one…

The real Pay-To-Win is to spend 500 euro on 25M SP skill injectors and a 2 billion ISK Dominix to run L5 missions in lowsec and proceed to lose 6 of them in a row, then open a forum thread complaining about the game, and then Winning Eve.

Could you imagine that happening.

(Edited to correct some of my imaginings)

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/451 "2023-10-24T19:50:04Z")

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wow EVE is clearly a Pay-To-Win game indeed

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**Author:** ![Annah\_Von\_Castel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_von_castel/32/439576_2.png) [@Annah\_Von\_Castel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Von_Castel)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/452 "2023-10-25T03:01:59Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> My ONE regret is not doing PVP stuff during the trig war. I loved that mechanic where some HS systems turned to LS for PVP. Sadly we didn’t do shield PVP. **(That also kills it for me as PVP is slanted towards armor and not shields)**

Damned! I miss that, sounds so good really! Agreed that van change everything for everyone! Even bad guys have to make alliance with nice to fight trigla! Soooo good idea.

But the amazing CCP ceo prefer launch another fps… Yeah…

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/453 "2023-10-25T08:24:45Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Yeah, no idea why CCP didn’t keep this one up.

I imagine there were not enough trigs to throw into meatgrinder.

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/454 "2023-10-25T09:11:19Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> everytime they gave us a nice additional income from all their T2 guns and Damagemods

My man thats not nice additional incoming, just some cheap remains compared to what my alliance is pulling out of highsec right now.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/455 "2023-10-25T12:30:42Z")

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> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#):
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> My man thats not nice additional incoming, just some cheap remains compared to what my alliance is pulling out of highsec right now.

Compared to the loot of the mission site, of course. The amount of money made by successful gankers is of course magnitudes higher (and well-deserved), but baiting a crew into failure is not really about the profit, but the fun of messing up someones plan. 🙂

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**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/456 "2023-10-29T15:07:01Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Yeah, no idea why CCP didn’t keep this one up. So exciting. Every month three highsec systems should be attacked by the Triglavians, if the capsuleers can defend it, it stays HighSec. If they fail, it gets added to Pochven. Really really nice content driver. After some timere there would be huge player coalitions trying to ruin highsec by supporting the trigs, and others forced to fight them else they lose more and more HS systems relevant for their business, trade routes, wardecs and whatnot. The idea that capsuleer decisions could really _shape_ the universe in some kind was a really cool one. A shame they abanoned it.

If you enjoy that type of gameplay, you’ll be interested in the Pirate Insurgencies gameplay that is coming with the Havoc expansion on the 14th of November.

The suppression/corruption mechanics allow players and groups to change the way a system acts and give it different sets of bonuses.

CCP Aurora speaks about it in this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qReg05OrkPU&ab\_channel=EVEOnline](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qReg05OrkPU&ab_channel=EVEOnline)

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/457 "2023-10-29T15:40:04Z")

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I will take a look of course, right now I am not convinced this “corruption” has the same level of (long-term) impact. But we will see.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/458 "2023-10-29T17:39:40Z")

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> [@CCP\_Swift](#):
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> The suppression/corruption mechanics allow players and groups to change the way a system acts and give it different sets of bonuses.

This hangs delicately on the details though.

As it stands Zarzakh itself will pretty much not be an option for Atron Andy and other small folks for pirate FW _if_ — and only if — Sisi’s Zarzakh bubbles make it to TQ.

Bubbles in Zarzakh do nothing to stop a Nullbloc level fleet from projecting through the system into opposite nullsec, and lets those blocs perma-bubble-camp The Fulcrum.

Maybe Zarzakh isn’t so important for pirate FW so little Atron Andy or small gangs don’t need the system. That would make for 5 useless shipcasters, though.

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**Author:** ![Raiden\_Rattlehead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raiden_rattlehead/32/515394_2.png) [@Raiden\_Rattlehead](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raiden_Rattlehead)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/459 "2023-10-30T11:24:21Z")

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Seems like a skill issue NGL

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/460 "2023-10-30T11:48:44Z")

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@CCP_Swift

hello, I read some articles and watched the video you linked. There still is one thing that bothers me. At some point in th video, CCP Aurora says something around this:

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> “if one side reached the maximum points, the pirates will pack their things and leave. The incursion ends.”

What does that _end_ mean _exactly_? Do all effects on that system just disappear as if there were never an incursion? The system just goes back to it’s “normal” state, like when a Sansha Incursion is done or a FOB is destroyed? Or do the achieved effects of both sides stay _permanently_ on that system? And if yes, how can they ever be reverted if boths sides can just achieve ‘levels’ and _add_ effects?

If all those pirate insurgencies just vanish after a time, it is surely short-term entertainment for some groups, but nothing that really _shapes_ the universe, all consequences will merely be temporal and you can just sit them out until they are gone. That is not comparable what the Triglavian Invasions did and therefore not comparable as a conflict driver and/or universe-shaping-opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/461 "2023-10-31T08:46:54Z")

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> Worse Halloween event in a game

> thanks for the lazy rewards

> useless for most EVE players

just a few examples from OP that warrant the thread to be closed

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/462 "2023-10-31T12:42:33Z")

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multifit? savings fits so that you can easily and quickly fit them?

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/463 "2023-10-31T14:45:13Z")

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It’s not the worst event in a game, but the Tetrimon sites are few and far between.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/464 "2023-10-31T14:46:57Z")

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> [@Wesfahrn](#):
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> just a few examples from OP that warrant the thread to be closed

Can we close your threads? Goodness knows how many you spam open in a day.

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**Author:** ![Prometheus\_XRay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prometheus_xray/32/389871_2.png) [@Prometheus\_XRay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prometheus_XRay)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/465 "2023-10-31T15:18:05Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Can we close your threads?

I’m pretty sure you don’t have to open his threads. Why do you feel compelled to advocate for closing them? How do they negatively impact you?

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/466 "2023-11-19T14:52:21Z")

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ups, my finger slipped and now the thread will stay open for another 60 days

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/467 "2023-11-19T15:10:46Z")

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I knew you couldn’t stay away

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