# Worse Halloween event in a game - thank you EVE business dep

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 6, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954 "2023-10-06T15:07:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/61 "2023-10-08T12:48:01Z")

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Literally incorrect:

> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> Tried a drake because passive tank and figured why not

> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> I decided to upgrade to the navy drake

I get you are salty over a loss. There are a number of behaviors you can do to ensure you lose less ships in the future:

- Have friends in the first place that can tell you when a passive shield fit is a Very Bad Idea ™
- If you don’t have friends, work on that (even on the forums)
- Ask for fitting advice
- Inquire why your fit did not succeed
- Analyze what went wrong with the fight

Yet you are choosing to antagonize and lash out at strangers on the forums. You’re working hard to make sure you get zero effective help and make sure everyone knows you are upset over a ship loss.

You’re going to lose more ships. The question of how many and in what manner depends entirely on your attitude.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/62 "2023-10-08T12:49:47Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> Literally incorrect:

No pal, that was literally my experience whether you like it or not.

I see that you apparently think you run things here with a few other regulars and that’s fine, but a pissing match over some ■■■■■■■■ site mechanics is not something I need with you sorry.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/63 "2023-10-08T12:56:46Z")

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I haven’t doubted your experience, and have given you alternative constructive ways to handle it.

I have given you flak trying to take a 💩 on Anthony’s Claymore experience (gleefully waiting for him to lose it without understanding _why_ he won’t) and am calling you out on it, which is just poor behavior. You don’t “want” it but you entirely deserve it for lashing out.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/64 "2023-10-08T12:57:22Z")

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Your white knighting is laudable.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/65 "2023-10-08T12:57:55Z")

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Thank you. Your attempts at rending the already tattered social fabric of the forums is not.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/66 "2023-10-08T12:58:29Z")

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This is the first I’ve been here, clearly people like you make them what they are.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/67 "2023-10-08T13:15:42Z")

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It’s certainly an appealing idea, but if you decide to stick around for any appreciable amount of time, you’d realize it’s because CCP tolerates drive-by-flame first-time posters who start threads for the sole purpose to take flaming dumps and then never return.

Again, what you think is “being witty” is just showing how much disdain you have for other people. It’s becoming less of a mystery why no one gave you the helpful advice “don’t use a passive shield fit in the event” ahead of time.

Imagine if our whole conversation never happened because instead of telling a guy his ship was going to pop, you genuinely asked “how come it is easy to run in a Claymore and not a passive shield fit Navy Drake” and we could be having a real helpful discussion about the game.

For some reason you keep doubling down on _not_ having that conversation.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/68 "2023-10-08T13:20:21Z")

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The funny thing is that if you go to Youtube and just search for “eve online event” pretty much the first (short video) talks about this stuff, what he uses and that there is a BS.

It’s almost as if searching for info for 5 minutes before you try something new you have no clue on actually helps.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/69 "2023-10-08T13:23:32Z")

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Does CCP hire paid trolls or something to post here? Amazing.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/70 "2023-10-08T13:32:38Z")

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> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> Does CCP hire paid trolls or something to post here?

No need to pay for something people are more than happy to do for free.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/71 "2023-10-08T13:34:17Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> No need to pay for something people are more than happy to do for free.

Ha, touche good sir thank you.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/72 "2023-10-08T16:14:29Z")

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What? It’s a t2 fit claymore lol. I can careless if I die and gankers are not going to kill me in the site because it takes too darn long to do! 😂 😂

It literally has 90% EM resist and easy 80% everything else. The NPCs are not going to kill me and if I slap some LSEs on it there is no way a ganker is going to bother with me.

And I really wish you quoted something of substance because I seen a guy duel boxing tengus doing the event. I seen a pally run these. Selective smugness much?

I am having tons of fun not exploding in the event. Take a chill pill and relax 😛

To be honest idk why I have to explain myself to you but it’s needed to finish off the record.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/73 "2023-10-08T16:20:17Z")

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> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> I’ll laugh when it pops but I’m guessing you wouldn’t post about it.

Why are you so angry and bitter Michael?

Is the game failing to pander to your high expectations of self-entitlement?

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**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/74 "2023-10-08T16:36:23Z")

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> [@Every\_One](#):
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> Okey so they target drones get targeted extremely fast even if I wait to get all the aggro, whatever. I’ve encountered this in other places.
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> But what bothers me is what is up with the warp scrambler? I literally almost lost my rattlesnake because my drones were like consumables and my cruise missiles couldn’t do enough damage to the frigates to get rid of the scram.
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> Let’s say I came unprepared (should have had heavy missiles instead and rely more on their damage). Bro it’s a high sec event and I almost lost that ship I run L4s with no problem?? What the ■■■■?
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> During these events there are (usually…) KPIs (key performance indicators) that companies try to achieve: increase sales of X by Y%, increase user count, increase CCU, etc.
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> This warp scrambler literally is made only for you to lose a ship, which might be some KPI. There is then a X % chance you will buy some plex.
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> The HUGE range of loot from what I’ve saw between 5 mil and 90 mil, adheres to the gambling brain of players, some more than others.
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> And then the risk vs reward of looters and the thrill of stealing and getting away, that’s just basic EVE high.
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> I really don’t think this event is good and from all the MMOs that I played, it’s still one of the worst (for me), it’s unbalanced, a greedy and lazy design.
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> There are multiple ways of fixing this, but instead they release the same event year after year after year, as some told me here.
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> No fun here, gonna go play GW2, ESO, WoW or something else this Halloween.

Dude this is hard to read. It’s pathetic, really.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/75 "2023-10-08T16:42:55Z")

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EVE weeding out the weak and keeping the strong. As Hilmar intended.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/76 "2023-10-08T16:45:48Z")

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> [@Every\_One](#):
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> But what bothers me is what is up with the warp scrambler? I literally almost lost my rattlesnake

It wouldn’t be a _Halloween_ event if there wasn’t a “boo” to scare you.

If you don’t like spook houses, then don’t run this event.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/77 "2023-10-08T17:17:10Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> Selective smugness much?

> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> high expectations of self-entitlement?

It would appear trolling the forums is just as legitimate of an activity as scamming jita.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/78 "2023-10-08T17:21:27Z")

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> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> It would appear trolling the forums is just as legitimate of an activity as scamming jita.

So is whining.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/79 "2023-10-08T17:32:46Z")

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I have no problem putting my money where my mouth is.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/80 "2023-10-08T17:50:45Z")

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Then just send 1B ISK to @Aiko_Danuja and use her ganking service on that Vulture. 🕶

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