# Worse Halloween event in a game - thank you EVE business dep

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 6, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954 "2023-10-06T15:07:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/101 "2023-10-08T20:40:58Z")

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Your points, in your own words:

Drones can be targeted  
Loot can be stolen  
it’s not easy solo

Yes, so what. There are more ships than just drone ships (unless you’re lazy) and even then you can make it work with drones ships (unless you’re lazy)

Yes, this is a competitive pvp sandbox, if you hadn’t noticed (only the lazy wouldn’t notice)

It’s easy if you’re not clueless, it’s hard if you are and then you can ask some friends to help. But that would require you to have friends which you very obviously don’t. And for obvious reasons

This is a you problem, not a “game design” problem. No one is buying your lies and entitlement, you should probably stop posting about it while you’re behind.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/102 "2023-10-08T20:41:45Z")

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Heh, don’t know what you’re going on about but he’s not wrong.

Over the years CCP has gotten lazy with regular events, constantly increasing the risk and reducing the loot drop rewards as well as increasing the amount of Agency points needed to complete it, not to mention the Agency rewards are lackluster and flat out worthless.

Same goes for the event Log-in rewards.

Gawd I hate soulbound crap…

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/103 "2023-10-08T20:42:43Z")

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Not every PVE situation should be solvable with “faceroll gila or drake”

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/104 "2023-10-08T20:43:13Z")

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No just faceroll a claymore.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/105 "2023-10-08T20:43:46Z")

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Someone used a claymore, doesn’t mean it’s the only option.

Show us your fit that you used and lost.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/106 "2023-10-08T20:45:00Z")

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I’m just amazed at your lack of any willingness to consider anything other than “fit bad”.

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**Author:** ![Every\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/every_one/32/422987_2.png) [@Every\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Every_One)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/107 "2023-10-08T20:45:46Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> This is a you problem, not a “game design” problem. No one is buying your lies and entitlement, you should probably stop posting about it while you’re behind.

No I don’t think I’ll stop posting, unless they decide enough is enough and want to shut me down I’ll have my freedom of pointing out bad game design thanks. Who are you to tell me what to do? Who’s entitled now?

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/108 "2023-10-08T20:45:52Z")

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> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> Does CCP hire paid trolls or something to post here? Amazing.

No, trolls work for free. That’s what actually amazing.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/109 "2023-10-08T20:46:33Z")

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No it’s “lack of effort and knowledge it bad”, fit is part of that. But thanks for admitting you have no clue on fits and won’t post it because it would show you to be clueless.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/110 "2023-10-08T20:48:02Z")

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It was literally a standard passive drake fit, HAMs up top, 3x BCS some shield extenders and resist amps. Tank was ~80hp/s, dps ~400. Too lazy for your ■■■■ right now.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/111 "2023-10-08T20:49:04Z")

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And a target painter obv cause lasers.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/112 "2023-10-08T20:49:46Z")

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see there is shows, zero understanding. hp/s is _meaningless_ in and of itself. Link the fit, it’s not difficult if you’re not stupid.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/113 "2023-10-08T20:51:44Z")

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Too bad zkill doesn’t show all losses.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/114 "2023-10-08T20:56:35Z")

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EVE has many issues. Trying to not cater (too much) to lazy clueless clowns isn’t one of them.

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/115 "2023-10-08T21:01:05Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> As Hilmar intended

So he intended for EVE’s population to decline year after year? You either give him too much credit and he’s not fit to be CEO or not enough credit and he didn’t intend it. Which is it?

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/116 "2023-10-08T21:02:30Z")

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Imagine being a 10+ year pve vet, take your time and do your proper due diligence when learning a new combat site’s mechanics, successfully complete it several times only to fail to what appears to be a ■■■■■■■■ mechanic, and then get flamed as a “lack of effort” clueless clown on the forums.

Typical day in Eve Online.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/117 "2023-10-08T21:07:20Z")

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> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> do your proper due diligence

It helps if you don’t lie as it’s very obvious. It also helps if you don’t whine. You made whine posts not “can someone help me” posts. And if you whine about something that is clearly a result of your lack of effort, blaming everyone and everything but yourself, no is going to take you serious.

If you don’t like

> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> get flamed

then act differently.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/118 "2023-10-08T21:09:01Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> can someone help me

Unless you’re CCP you can’t fix your buggy unbalanced game, can you?

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/119 "2023-10-08T21:09:34Z")

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> [@Michael\_Gryffith](#):
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> new combat site’s mechanics

It’s not new, it’s been around every year for multiple years at this point, the last 4 years all featuring neuts, webs, and points. And the PvE community has long known that they have the special anti-drone AI, and that passive shield tanks are not viable for this content.

You _say_ the words “I did due diligence” but the actions and outcome show differently.

We’re trying to get you to stop deceiving yourself so that you can learn and improve. You are your own worst enemy in this regard.

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**Author:** ![Every\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/every_one/32/422987_2.png) [@Every\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Every_One)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worse-halloween-event-in-a-game-thank-you-eve-business-dep/422954/120 "2023-10-08T21:09:48Z")

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I didn’t expect the frigates and the battleships to focus my drones and to pop them like pimples. So then it got very hard to try and get rid of the neuts and scram and web, with my cruise missiles on my rattlesnake. And if I would have gotten neuted fully I’d be dead.

Unlike sleeper sites, these crimson sites are ruthless to drones.

Lemme guess, I should have checked YT vids of last year, and the wiki, for a ■■■■■■■ high sec site with my L4 fit. Ridiculous.

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