# Worth blinging a Lvl 4 mission ship?

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**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [June 6, 2018, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950 "2018-06-06T05:50:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![OId\_SouI1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oid_soui1/32/436556_2.png) [@OId\_SouI1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/OId_SouI1)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/61 "2018-07-10T03:21:35Z")

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Blinged drake or no drake at all.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/62 "2018-07-10T07:31:42Z")

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> [@OId\_SouI1](#):
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> Blinged drake or no drake at all.

Gila is the new Drake.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/63 "2018-07-10T08:42:49Z")

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I prefer to bling pve ships so I can free up room and make the fits stronger/apply better etc. However I do my pve activities in null and have very good reaction time thus never been caught.

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**Author:** ![Orren\_Grund](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orren_grund/32/378694_2.png) [@Orren\_Grund](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orren_Grund)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/64 "2018-07-10T15:12:29Z")

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> [@Veryez](#):
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> The biggest trick to running missions better is not to build a better tank, but to kill enemies quicker (something the Mach excels at - which is why people are suggesting it), nonetheless, your fit can be tweaked to be much more lethal (this is very close to a fit I use), additionally, there is room to improve, If you need more tank, swap the PDU II with a DC II (but you’ll need to drop some CPU elsewhere, for example drop the hardeners to t1 named vice T2, the DC II easily makes up the difference). In all cases, you should (as your skills improve both RL and in game) be working towards the minimum tank you can get by with and the maximum gank you can obtain.

Aye, I’m working on that. When I manage to position myself well and have all the rest in order (resists, ammo, drones) there’s several missions I can run without really worrying much about the tank and many where the booster is plenty enough. It’s just that there are some missions where bad placement will mean a lot of incoming fire ripping that shield down.

But as said I’m improving. Been doing some lvl 3 security missions for rep lately, in a cruiser (SFI) instead of the more common battlecruiser. Those have really got me thinking about what I’m doing! Was pretty pleased to manage the L3 version of “The Blockade” in the old tub - it took a lot of kiting, micromanaging drones and a few warpouts but it worked. 😉

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**Author:** ![Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villiam_kaardanen/32/85484_2.png) [@Villiam\_Kaardanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villiam_Kaardanen)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/65 "2018-07-11T19:33:37Z")

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saw the fit you’re talking about and yeah, there’s a lot to be said from that fit. first thing im gonna recommend is that you dont invest on expensive modules, rather, improve your skills until you can fly the ship at maximum stats on everything (as high as Alpha Skills allow in case you’re not Omega).

as for the ship, i’d rather not to look at premade fits and instead try to tinker on a program like Pyfa or EFT. however, if you want, i’d recommend this fit instead:

[Maelstrom, PvE]

Damage Control II  
Power Diagnostic System II  
Gyrostabilizer II  
Gyrostabilizer II  
Gyrostabilizer II

100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner  
Large Shield Booster II  
Large Cap Battery II  
Large Cap Battery II  
EM Ward Field II  
Thermal Dissipation Field II

1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I, EMP L  
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I, EMP L  
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I, EMP L  
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I, EMP L  
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I, EMP L  
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I, EMP L  
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I, EMP L  
1200mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Artillery I, EMP L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I  
Large Projectile Collision Accelerator I  
Large Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I

Warrior II x5  
Valkyrie II x5  
Hornet EC-300 x5

Fusion L x1  
Phased Plasma L x1  
EMP L x2

i have a preference towards sustained repping so 2 batteries and a power diagnostic system ensure i get at least close to 10 minutes of constant repping power with a T2 LSB. i dont think you need too much repping power if you’re using dedicated hardeners for the damage type of the NPCs anyways.

plus it also frees the rig slots for something else. in this case a damage rig, a tracking rig and an EM resistance to patch the hole in shield resists.

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**Author:** ![Veine\_Miromme](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veine_miromme/32/269859_2.png) [@Veine\_Miromme](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veine_Miromme)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/66 "2018-07-11T20:52:12Z")

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[Machariel, Simulated Machariel]  
Expanded Cargohold II  
Experimental Hyperspatial Accelerator  
Limited Hyperspatial Accelerator  
Expanded Cargohold II  
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane  
Limited Hyperspatial Accelerator

Shadow Serpentis 500MN Microwarpdrive  
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I  
Tracking Computer II  
Medium Cap Battery II  
Cap Recharger II

800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II  
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II  
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Salvage Drone I x5  
Caldari Navy Warden x4

Optimal Range Script x2  
Tracking Speed Script x1  
Republic Fleet Fusion L x2377  
Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot L x1910  
Cap Booster 800 x17  
Nanite Repair Paste x286  
Standard Frentix Booster x2

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**Author:** ![Urien\_Dealien\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/urien_dealien_jita/32/83648_2.png) [@Urien\_Dealien\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Urien_Dealien_Jita)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/67 "2018-07-17T11:09:29Z")

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Dafuq?

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**Author:** ![Sarah\_Olson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sarah_olson/32/377582_2.png) [@Sarah\_Olson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sarah_Olson)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/68 "2018-07-17T15:47:46Z")

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What the heck is that Mach fit supposed to do? That fit makes my brain hurt and my eyes bleed.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/69 "2018-07-17T16:42:19Z")

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it’s supposed to make your eyes hurt and your brain bleed.

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**Author:** ![JC\_Mieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jc_mieyli/32/242789_2.png) [@JC\_Mieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JC_Mieyli)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/70 "2018-07-17T17:42:06Z")

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it warps fast and holds a lot of cargo obviously  
duh  
although i would probably replace the turrets with salvagers and tractor beams

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/71 "2018-07-17T19:43:45Z")

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don’t forget the cyno.

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**Author:** ![Veine\_Miromme](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veine_miromme/32/269859_2.png) [@Veine\_Miromme](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veine_Miromme)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/72 "2018-07-17T20:54:44Z")

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Ah yes, that was a travel fit, but it moves to the new mission, refits, and clears it.  
I think it carries a Leopard.  
I forgot what else.  
It’s still a bling fit for missions and Lvl 4 missions, and it was worth it.  
The only thing it cannot do is go in restricted area.  
Anything else it can get into, it clears.

The salvagers are not needed as this is handled by a Noctis.  
I usually don’t sell the site bookmark though it should be possible.  
The one (1) tractor beam is to loot the wrecks while shooting them.  
The Mobile Tractor Unit, takes care of the rest of the wrecks.

This is an updated fit:  
[Machariel, Machariel] **MY CAR**  
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer  
Damage Control II  
Gyrostabilizer II  
Limited Hyperspatial Accelerator  
Limited Hyperspatial Accelerator  
Experimental Hyperspatial Accelerator

Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer  
Shadow Serpentis 500MN Microwarpdrive  
Medium Cap Battery II  
Cap Recharger II  
Tracking Computer II  
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I

800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
800mm Heavy ‘Scout’ Repeating Cannon I  
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II  
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II  
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Salvage Drone I x5  
Caldari Navy Warden x4

Fusion L x100  
Tracking Speed Script x1  
Optimal Range Script x2  
Republic Fleet Fusion L x2617  
Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot L x2510  
Cap Booster 800 x22  
Nanite Repair Paste x286  
Standard Frentix Booster x2

Also, the cannon’s are probably out of date and need to be upgraded to Tech II ones, which I probably trained to use by now.

I carry a mobile depot and the Salvage drones take care of the wrecks.  
Also, I have 2 other Gyrostabilizer II in the Cargo Hold, in case.

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/73 "2018-07-17T23:04:12Z")

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> [@Veine\_Miromme](#):
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> it carries a Leopard

ive actually seen a few people fly those in low-sec lately  
it kinda makes me chuckle when i see them

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/74 "2018-07-18T00:41:06Z")

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It doesn’t work very good on the Jita undock depending…

The Machariel got an additional medium slot, and one less low slot.  
My DCUII was red.

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**Author:** ![Veryez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veryez/32/508712_2.png) [@Veryez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veryez)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/75 "2018-07-18T01:37:50Z")

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> [@Orren\_Grund](#):
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> Was pretty pleased to manage the L3 version of “The Blockade” in the old tub - it took a lot of kiting, micromanaging drones and a few warpouts but it worked.

God I remember those days, it was fun. When I started running level 4’s, I always had a buddy with me. I remember the extra room of AE, my friend and I saying, “Nope not a prayer of tanking this” and warping out (long before rigs, and affordable t2 items (in those days a DCU II was 30 mil in Rens….)). Scrimping and saving for my first Raven. The feeling of accomplishment of completing my first level 4 solo. So many good times, so many good friends have left EvE forever… Anyway, when you’re ready to try level 4’s, start with a buddy. Learn the ropes and the triggers, don’t treat EvE like a race. Enjoy it, there’s no other game like it.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/76 "2018-08-23T11:01:00Z")

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> [@Veryez](#):
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> I always had a buddy with me. I remember the extra room of AE, my friend and I saying, “Nope not a prayer of tanking this” and warping out (long before rigs, and affordable t2 items (in those days a DCU II was 30 mil in Rens….)).

Obligatory like button click because nostalgia!

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/77 "2018-09-18T01:26:24Z")

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I definitely agree. I sold my Kronos for a Tengu. I don’t regret the decision, but I do miss my Kronos.  
PS: Rattlesnakes are amazing.

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**Author:** ![Beekeeper\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beekeeper_bob/32/395030_2.png) [@Beekeeper\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beekeeper_Bob)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/78 "2018-09-18T03:04:42Z")

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Have things changed that much in 4 years? I used a Nightmare for most level 4 missions, far cheaper than a Marauder. But it’s fully blinged, have never had an issue in a level 4 mission with other than salvagers.  
I should note it’s only faction/deadspace fit, not officer.

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/79 "2018-09-18T05:44:21Z")

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Nope, thy didn’t. Only the price tag on the Nightmare did.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/worth-blinging-a-lvl-4-mission-ship/80950/80 "2018-09-18T06:50:44Z")

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Rattlesnake or Marauders - you can’t really go wrong with either. The Hivaa ballistic modules gives you quite a few options with the Rattlesnake by freeing up 2-3 low slots. RHMLs seem to offer the best choice in combination with heavy drones (it’s quite easy to extend missle range to 100km).

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