# Would a bot that runs Blackjack or Poker in a chat channel be legal?

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**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [December 8, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496 "2022-12-08T20:27:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Count\_of\_MonteCylon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_of_montecylon/32/394931_2.png) [@Count\_of\_MonteCylon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_of_MonteCylon)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/1 "2022-12-08T20:27:05Z")

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I assume that botting to make ISK or otherwise play the game is not legal but what if someone ran blackjack or poker in a chat channel. I say this because I think that running blackjack or poker in-game would be pretty cool, particularly if we could gamble ISK, but I don’t see CCP putting something like this in… unless maybe if someone else implemented it and it was popular. But would that be against the rules?

Specifically I imagine there’d just be a channel called “Blackjack”, you join it and a bot runs blackjack games through text.

Edit: Apparently gambling is against the EULA but would it be legal if people weren’t using ISK? Just for fun.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/2 "2022-12-08T22:48:02Z")

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The best place to clarify rules would be via a support ticket → [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/requests/new](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) to the GM team.

That said → [https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/terms-of-service-en/](https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/terms-of-service-en/)

## EVE Online - Terms of Service

As an EVE Online subscriber, you must observe and abide by the rules of conduct and policies outlined below, as well as the [End User License Agreement](https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-eula-en/). Failure to comply with these regulations can result in the immediate termination of your account and you will forfeit all unused access time to the game. No refunds will be given.

1. You will not attempt to decipher, hack into or interfere with any transmissions to or from the EVE Online servers, nor will you try to create or use any third party add-ons, extras or tools for the game.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/3 "2022-12-09T04:27:15Z")

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Also eve is rated PEGI-12 (PG-13) so 13 and up is able to play EVE. So yea no gambling or anything like it

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/4 "2022-12-09T05:43:54Z")

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you can always hang out with your corp mates on a site that’s dedicated to that sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/5 "2022-12-09T06:21:28Z")

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> [@Count\_of\_MonteCylon](#):
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> botting

no

> [@Count\_of\_MonteCylon](#):
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> ran blackjack or poker

no

> [@Count\_of\_MonteCylon](#):
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> in a chat channel

not illegal to spam chat, but please no

> [@Count\_of\_MonteCylon](#):
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> gamble ISK

no

> [@Count\_of\_MonteCylon](#):
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> someone else implemented it

still no

> [@Count\_of\_MonteCylon](#):
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> But would that be against the rules?

yes

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**Author:** ![Jint\_Hikaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jint_hikaru/32/387656_2.png) [@Jint\_Hikaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jint_Hikaru)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/6 "2022-12-09T09:17:20Z")

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Seriously man, if you can’t enjoy a computer game without trying to stick gambling like ‘Blackjack or poker’ into it, then you really should start to think about the fact that you have a gambling problem.

It might be time to get some help.

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**Author:** ![Ariel\_Kryten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ariel_kryten/32/345184_2.png) [@Ariel\_Kryten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ariel_Kryten)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/7 "2022-12-09T13:17:47Z")

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Feel free to waste as much ISK as you want on the Hypernet. That’s as close to gambling as you’re going to get in EVE.

And also, get some help…

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**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/8 "2022-12-09T15:26:34Z")

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I sould know i have asked for it

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**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/9 "2022-12-09T23:47:13Z")

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CCP shut down all the various sorts of isk gambling in Eve (which was quite popular) but then after a bit made the hypernet exchange…which is…isk gambling. Of course, CCP sells the needed hypernet cores for irl money…so…

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/2/a/c2aa3e9d5196d34138c4c3768da6882cd2f60f03.png)

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**Author:** ![Stalking\_Cougar\_Austrene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalking_cougar_austrene/32/338546_2.png) [@Stalking\_Cougar\_Austrene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalking_Cougar_Austrene)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/10 "2022-12-10T06:09:00Z")

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This idea is better than the FPS idea that keeps getting attention.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/11 "2022-12-10T09:42:54Z")

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Do it on your own discord server not on Eve.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/12 "2022-12-10T17:40:34Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> So yea no gambling or anything like it

Except, you know. Hypernet Relay.

That’s a thing. But… uh… technically not gambling except that it is. But we don’t talk about that.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/would-a-bot-that-runs-blackjack-or-poker-in-a-chat-channel-be-legal/387496/13 "2023-03-10T17:40:39Z")

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