# WREATHE fitting for High- and Low-Sec **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [August 21, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590 "2018-08-21T12:43:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/21 "2018-08-29T22:20:12Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > They are equal to X units of time their _period_ is _in default case_ 1s . during tidi the period increases. ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/22 "2018-08-29T23:05:39Z")
> [@Lizzy6](#): > > with increased sig radius and increased align time you’re surely popped in low sec No; it is fitted with cloaky warp. That is the point; slippy and fast with fast align and low radius, or slow align but with cloaky warp and three warp core stabs. And you can cloaky warp when going from station to station in hisec too. ---
**Author:** ![Lizzy6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lizzy6/32/91674_2.png) [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/23 "2018-08-30T09:20:39Z")
> [@Lily\_Inkura](#): > > > [@Lizzy6](#): > > > > with increased sig radius and increased align time you’re surely popped in low sec > > No; it is fitted with cloaky warp. That is the point; slippy and fast with fast align and low radius, or slow align but with cloaky warp and three warp core stabs. And you can cloaky warp when going from station to station in hisec too. ok, thats true. cloaky warp is good, but not for alphas. In the past I had some trouble with it because I decloaked after anything goes nearby 2000m, like a ganker frigate. But this should happen very seldom. ---
**Author:** ![SWAGGZENEGGER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swaggzenegger/32/236776_2.png) [@SWAGGZENEGGER](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SWAGGZENEGGER)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/24 "2018-08-30T10:27:42Z")
Aim for 4 sec align (with inertia stabs). Get a 50MWD and a prototype cloak for cloak MWD trick (google it). Rigs go hyperspacial for warp speed. Rest of mid you either go a bit shield tank or ECM burst for lock break. ---
**Author:** ![Lizzy6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lizzy6/32/91674_2.png) [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/25 "2018-08-30T12:02:09Z")
> [@SWAGGZENEGGER](#): > > cloak MWD trick very interesting: [Cloak trick - EVE University Wiki](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cloak_trick) so I will bring up a new fitting … ---
**Author:** ![Lizzy6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lizzy6/32/91674_2.png) [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/26 "2018-08-30T12:23:35Z")
improved fitting for the MWD-Cloak-Trick: could not used by ALPHA’s Align time: 3.81s = 4s warp speed: 5.4 AU/s signature: 210 cargo hold: 7513 m3 [Wreathe, RunnerX2\_cloak\_mwd\_trick] Power Diagnostic System II Inertial Stabilizers II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II 50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender EM Ward Amplifier II Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Improved Cloaking Device II [Empty High slot] Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/27 "2018-08-30T12:31:16Z")
as I said in first post. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > escape : alphas can’t cloak, so no mwd cloak. So you are screwed. BTW use a compact 50mn instead of enduring. also, when using mwd cloack your align can’t be lower than 11s so nozzles and inertial stabs are pretty useless here. A fast frigate will burn to you into 2-3 s even if you cloak up, and then decloak you. so, carggohold in the rigs and warp core in the lows are a better idea. ---
**Author:** ![Lizzy6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lizzy6/32/91674_2.png) [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/28 "2018-08-30T16:52:19Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > also, when using mwd cloack your align can’t be lower than 11s so nozzles and inertial stabs are pretty useless here. Why is it so? Why I cannot align faster? Is this so for the sensor recalibration time (10s) using the cloak? in the description of mwd-cloak-trick they talk about this: > 1. Hit align to your point of interest > 2. Immediately after hit the cloak > 3. Immediately after you hit cloak hit your MWD _(this **does** work, you can activate non-offensive modules for 5 seconds after you activate a cloaking device)._ > 4. When your MWD cycle is about 90-95% complete, deactivate your cloak and spam warp to your point of interest. > 5. The MWD will deactivate automatically, and when it does you will instantly enter warp. > > Because the MWD boosts your (cloaked) speed by 500% for one cycle while you are cloaked you will end up at right around warp speed when you deactivate the cloak (right before the MWD cycle is complete.) Since you hit align before the cloak you will be aligned and at warp speed when the cloak drops. This equals near insta-warp. With practice, you can be uncloaked for literally less than a second total on a gate. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/29 "2018-08-30T17:17:15Z")
because mwd has a cycle of 10s. Add in the 1s to decloak(and actually 1s to decloak after aligning), so getting better base align is useless when you use mwd. ---
**Author:** ![Gordon11112](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gordon11112/32/168407_2.png) [@Gordon11112](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gordon11112)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/30 "2018-08-30T22:47:38Z")
I fly the wreathe with three Tech2 Nanos. That has to be enough or get rekt. Dont forget that good bookmarks can make your life a lot easier and reduce risk. If you have to go though gates you should scout before. For example you can create driveby bookmark for PI hauling. You have bookmark in line to the poco, warp the poco, align out, load fast (be prepared, have the stuff already in the poco, drag to cargo) and warp to the exit. You still have a lot of velocity and this can do this really fast. If somebodys waiting at the poco you might be screwed, but if they are only hunting you, you have very good chances to escape. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Indy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andrew_indy/32/13108_2.png) [@Andrew\_Indy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andrew_Indy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/31 "2018-08-31T08:24:26Z")
If I had to fly an Alpha through LS this is the fit I would use. [Wreathe, LS] ‘Accord’ Core Compensation ‘Accord’ Core Compensation ‘Accord’ Core Compensation Damage Control II Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers 10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender EM Ward Amplifier II [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I Dual drop for burning back to gate with a big fleet, OK align and OK tank + warp cores. Would still perfer a Cloak MWD (or get good and use a T2 hauler), but you have to use what you can. You can make is better with T2 mods but I went as cheap as possible . Could also use an Invlu or 2 but I prefer passive as its less for a new player to worry about when jumping into a gate camp. Also could use a tank or speed reg instead of the hyper but getting to a gate before a chasing crusier fleet does is a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Lizzy6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lizzy6/32/91674_2.png) [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/32 "2018-08-31T10:23:26Z")
> [@Lizzy6](#): > > improved fitting for the MWD-Cloak-Trick: > . > . > . ok, I realized that is completely crap. - could not used by alphas - warping in about 11s is too slow with my normal fitting (- _ **→ here a full fitted WREATHE with shield tank** _ _ **to resist attacks before warping** _.) I would warp in about 6s. ---
**Author:** ![Lizzy6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lizzy6/32/91674_2.png) [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/33 "2018-09-02T11:06:02Z")
# SUMMARY To come to a conclusion here my fitting I will use as ALPHA: Align time: 3.92 s = 4s Warp time: 6s Signature: 200 Cargo: 5513 m3, enough for 2 frigs + stuff * * * [Wreathe, RunnerX opti] Warp Core Stabilizer II Warp Core Stabilizer II Warp Core Stabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Inertial Stabilizers II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Amplifier II EM Ward Amplifier II Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Cargohold Optimization I * * * ---
**Author:** ![Lizzy6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lizzy6/32/91674_2.png) [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/34 "2018-09-02T11:16:10Z")
cheap version with T1 mods: Align time: 3.89 s = 4s Warp time: 6s Signature: 210 Cargo: 5513 m3, enough for 2 frigs + stuff * * * [Wreathe, RunnerX opti cheap] ‘Halcyon’ Core Equalizer I ‘Halcyon’ Core Equalizer I ‘Halcyon’ Core Equalizer I Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers Type-D Restrained Inertial Stabilizers Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I Upgraded Thermal Dissipation Amplifier I [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Cargohold Optimization I ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/35 "2018-09-02T17:15:38Z")
get one fit for LS and one for HS. The main threat for HS is the nades. The main threat for LS is the gatecamps. you need a minimum of ehp to tank both, as well as align time. if you can fit a mwd+AB fit it’s better for LS as it allows you to burn back to gate. for HS you instead need a correct amount of ehp to tank the alpha of one nade : 10k eho/nade ± ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/36 "2018-09-03T07:02:30Z")
Sorry, but what’s a ‘nade’ ? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/37 "2018-09-03T12:33:40Z")
> **[Tornado | Ship](https://zkillboard.com/ship/4310/)** > > Tornado: 1,166,455 ships destroyed and 149,891 ships lost. this fit was ■■■■ : > **[Viator | Varen Dominee | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72231082/)** > > Varen Dominee (The Cwn Annwn) lost their Viator in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by Godfather S'ulTane (Godfather of healthy food) flying in a Tornado. Total Value: 241,646,506.32 ISK > **[Wreathe | Marowyn Aldeland | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72229120/)** > > Marowyn Aldeland (Hartlain Corporation) lost their Wreathe in Juunigaishi (The Citadel) Total Value: 996,423,335.41 ISK > **[Viator | Frodel Beit-Lehem | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72229463/)** > > Frodel Beit-Lehem (Skybase United) lost their Viator in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by Hol's der Geier (AlFaraS'ulTanes big-game hunting) flying in a Tornado. Total Value: 237,464,547.92 ISK > **[Viator | Lancashirian | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72229689/)** > > Lancashirian (New Eden Ballistics) lost their Viator in Jita (The Forge) Total Value: 558,268,276.91 ISK > **[Viator | redeamerspawn | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72229959/)** > > redeamerspawn (Exploration Nation) lost their Viator in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by Marauding Greenskin (Marauding Greenskin is a pacifist) flying in a Tornado. Total Value: 435,879,852.31 ISK > **[Epithal | Cass Tamuri | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72228758/)** > > Cass Tamuri (Nebula Rasa Holdings) lost their Epithal in Urlen (The Forge) Total Value: 333,679,145.00 ISK [https://zkillboard.com/kill/72228429/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72228429/) (holy cow) [https://zkillboard.com/kill/72228171/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72228171/) (holy cow ² ) [https://zkillboard.com/kill/72229120/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72229120/) [https://zkillboard.com/kill/72224136/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72224136/) [https://zkillboard.com/kill/72222284/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/72222284/) a nade gives ±10k ehp alpha. if you have less, you die in one shot try those fits for HS : This one has fitting room : > **compact fit** > > ``` > [Wreathe, 30k ehp] > Damage Control II > Expanded Cargohold II > Expanded Cargohold II > Inertial Stabilizers II > Inertial Stabilizers II > > Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II > Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender > Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender > Medium Shield Extender II > EM Ward Amplifier II > > Medium Ancillary Current Router I > Medium Core Defense Field Extender I > Medium Core Defense Field Extender I > > ``` This one has not ; but has higher ehp : > **T2 fit** > > ``` > [Wreathe, 40k] > Damage Control II > Inertial Stabilizers II > Power Diagnostic System II > Inertial Stabilizers II > Inertial Stabilizers II > > Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II > Large Shield Extender II > Large Shield Extender II > Medium Shield Extender II > EM Ward Amplifier II > > Medium Core Defense Field Extender II > Medium Core Defense Field Extender II > Medium Core Defense Field Extender II > > ``` basically in HS you need at least two LSE, a DC and as many extender rig as you can. plus, a passive em shield amplifier - passive because error prone and em because nades shoot in em/explo but your shield already has good explo resist. What you need is, to have ± 11k ehp per 100M worth items + fit you have. ---
**Author:** ![Lizzy6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lizzy6/32/91674_2.png) [@Lizzy6](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lizzy6)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/38 "2018-09-06T07:55:36Z")
are warp core stabilizers helpful or needless? ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/39 "2018-09-06T13:05:55Z")
> [@Lizzy6](#): > > are warp core stabilizers helpful or needless? Both. I have been in a non-MWD fitted miasmos in LS, with warp cores, and sailed away from the gate because the local pirate could not stop me getting away. I have been in a MWD fitted miasmos in LS, with warp cores, and got splashed because my fat fingers missed the cloaky warp and the local pirate disintegrated me before my warp could kick in. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Indy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andrew_indy/32/13108_2.png) [@Andrew\_Indy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andrew_Indy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590/40 "2018-09-10T07:54:18Z")
T2 Warps cores are of no value to a hauler, They just add cost. Best to use he cheaper Meta Warp core that will fit. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wreathe-fitting-for-high-and-low-sec/99590.md?page=3)