# Wrecking Machine. and Black Flag vs P A R A B E L L U M and co **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 25, 2023, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118 "2023-01-25T09:17:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Malkaviano\_Revenge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malkaviano_revenge/32/351277_2.png) [@Malkaviano\_Revenge](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malkaviano_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/62 "2023-01-26T21:12:03Z")
> [@Elizabet\_Forgrave](#): > > hid under a rock for the whole fight. I’m sorry Lucas, but I must educate you there’s no such thing like up/down/left/right in space. He probably hid near a dense veldspar rock using the appropriate vector to align and warp out in case of danger. Sorry for interrupting. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/64 "2023-01-26T21:34:08Z")
My parents beat me if my KDR falls under 40:1… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/65 "2023-01-26T21:35:33Z")
> [@3CT0PLASM4](#): > > you have severe problems for thinking that zkill matters Zkill merely reflects what you do in the game. Some people don’t do anything, and you can look at their killboard and see that. Then you can disregard any opinions they have about the game, because they obviously lack experience. ---
**Author:** ![Elizabet\_Forgrave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elizabet_forgrave/32/457166_2.png) [@Elizabet\_Forgrave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elizabet_Forgrave)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/66 "2023-01-26T21:54:08Z")
I’m not that guy and I’d appreciate it if you didn’t joining in with the other forum trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/67 "2023-01-26T23:10:27Z")
> [@3CT0PLASM4](#): > > I think you have severe problems for thinking that zkill matters in this game It matters more than you do. ---
**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/68 "2023-01-26T23:46:12Z")
They need to get pychiatric help because they use zkill? LOL! ---
**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/69 "2023-01-27T00:29:29Z")
> [@Malkaviano\_Revenge](#): > > I’m sorry Lucas, but I must educate you there’s no such thing like up/down/left/right in space. > > He probably hid near a dense veldspar rock using the appropriate vector to align and warp out in case of danger. > > Sorry for interrupting. You speaks the truth! ---
**Author:** ![3CT0PLASM4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/3ct0plasm4/32/435596_2.png) [@3CT0PLASM4](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/3CT0PLASM4)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/71 "2023-01-27T14:54:16Z")
Well if zkill matters that much how about we go on a 1v1 and see if you’re as dangerous as your killboard says ? Just mail me ingame and tell me the ship type and place ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/72 "2023-01-27T15:30:23Z")
> [@3CT0PLASM4](#): > > I just really enjoy triggering this zkill warrior Lol. Given your propensity for regularly popping your head out of the tea pot like the dormouse in Alice In Wonderland, with posts just as sane, I rather think you can wear the triggered label. And no, you are not important enough for me to waste my time on a duel. Plus I’d hate to get a kill that ‘doesn’t matter’ to you anyway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![3CT0PLASM4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/3ct0plasm4/32/435596_2.png) [@3CT0PLASM4](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/3CT0PLASM4)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/73 "2023-01-27T16:33:53Z")
So you aren’t as good as you pretend to be, thanks for showing me proof of you being a complete f1 monkey. At least if you had accepted that 1v1, even if you had not won, you would have proved me wrong and that you weren’t just an egocentric zkill warrior. My offer stays though. If you are one day willing to prove me wrong about your cowardness, then go on, I will wait 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![3CT0PLASM4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/3ct0plasm4/32/435596_2.png) [@3CT0PLASM4](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/3CT0PLASM4)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/74 "2023-01-27T16:40:38Z")
I would argue that zkillboard is a tool that you cannot completely rely on. For me, it helps me keep track of things, sometimes find useful information. The entire profile stuff and stats though ? Absolutely useless, it’s impossible to judge anything from that. Take snuffed out’s cyno alts : they always make new ones so people can’t check much on zkill. Amamake/Tama pvpers ? FW pvpers ? They have terrible stats, sometimes 45% dangerous, but there might be a reason (blobbing for example), so they could be very well experienced and you wouldn’t know that at all. 2 exceptions though : Miners and f1 monkeys (hsec ones). Never have I ever seen one of these 2 bait me or be well skilled pvp wise. Of course baiting using an alt is possible, I can’t deny that. But zkill doesn’t provide real information on skills most of the time. In my opinion at least ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/75 "2023-01-27T20:46:18Z")
Where this? I wanna fight! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/76 "2023-01-27T22:13:12Z")
> [@3CT0PLASM4](#): > > At least if you had accepted that 1v1, even if you had not won, you would have proved me wrong Ah…I see the problem. You mistake me for someone who gives a \*\*\*\* what you think. However, in my schedule of meeting galactic dignitaries and doing really cool and important stuff…I might just be able to squeeze in an appointment with you on March 27th 2037 at 15.45. That’s assuming someone less important doesn’t jump ahead of you. ---
**Author:** ![3CT0PLASM4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/3ct0plasm4/32/435596_2.png) [@3CT0PLASM4](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/3CT0PLASM4)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/77 "2023-01-27T23:08:32Z")
No need to elaborate on being eve’s biggest coward, I didn’t ask you to prove me that twice. You can save your words if you don’t give a darn 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/78 "2023-01-28T03:12:20Z")
> [@3CT0PLASM4](#): > > The entire profile stuff and stats though ? Absolutely useless It’s only useless if you don’t know how to process the data. For 1 billion isk, I offer a seminar entitled **Killboard Stats and You**. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/79 "2023-01-28T03:29:19Z")
Some days it is best to just semi afk while watching a structure heath deplete. Sounds like fun… how does a capsuleer sign up to that? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/80 "2023-01-28T03:39:37Z")
Hey…join the queue ! I think I can fit you in several years before 3CT0PLASM4. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/81 "2023-01-28T05:25:35Z")
Well, I thought that if you weren’t going to fight this guy, I could, but now that I have that boomer whom I’ve “made interested in killing again” from that locked GD thread going after me, I might’ve bitten off more than I can chew. Pray for me, friends. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/82 "2023-01-28T05:37:10Z")
I reached Level V Contempt, and am well on my way to Advanced Contempt V. Those skills beat forum duelists every time. ---
**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118/83 "2023-01-28T06:03:51Z")
Para are great content. brought me back to the game for a ok fight. Long my this war continue. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wrecking-machine-and-black-flag-vs-p-a-r-a-b-e-l-l-u-m-and-co/393118.md?page=5)