# You going to need to spend more time in EVE after the change? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 30, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227 "2019-07-30T21:27:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Janus\_Gregorian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/janus_gregorian/32/144827_2.png) [@Janus\_Gregorian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Janus_Gregorian)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/42 "2019-08-03T23:28:50Z")
IRL you could been thrown a curve ball because of a serious disability, disease or accident that keeps you from being able to take care of yourself or, at the very least, do well. In EVE nothing is permanent or debilitating to that degree. In EVE it’s all just choice. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/43 "2019-08-03T23:31:02Z")
So youve never lost a Gila in an Abyssal due to a power outage, a capital to a brownout or an entire WH due to a Hard Drive failure. Interesting. But sadly not respective of anything but good fortune on your behalf. Others may not be so…mitigated? ---
**Author:** ![Janus\_Gregorian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/janus_gregorian/32/144827_2.png) [@Janus\_Gregorian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Janus_Gregorian)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/44 "2019-08-03T23:36:28Z")
That’s not a permanent problem. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/45 "2019-08-03T23:39:03Z")
So you are saying only bad luck equatable to being born with a birth defect separates your real life luck from EvE luck? Man Im glad Im drunk right now or this would make no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/46 "2019-08-03T23:41:28Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > lost a Gila in an Abyssal due to a power outage, a capital to a brownout or an entire WH due to a Hard Drive failure Firstly in New Eden we all know the risks of undocking and as much as the power outage be an outside cause of loss, it is no different than being ganked on the way back to dock causing similar losses. Secondly you said brownout.. lol 💯 ) Um yeah lightning and losing the WHs well most would have more than one alt inside (logged off) such high value space. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/47 "2019-08-04T02:12:14Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > In fact I’ve never seen you once post any helpful info or say anything good here in these forums. Which says a lot about _your_ reading abilities, not mine… > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > And if you think everything in this game is rosey red and working perfectly then you’ve definitely lost touch with reality. Have you ever seen me say anything like that too? Is that what you think I’m talking about when I say you’re _using_ those players instead of _helping_ them? Really? > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > The fact that you’re reading way too much into what’s actually stated proves it. I love how you keep seeing “proofs” of anything you want to believe in anything I say. Truly funny. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > you can’t even comprehend basic English ROFLMAO. > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > let alone accept the fact that not all forum users speak English as their native language You sure about this too? You think the OP’s unreadability has anything to do with whether English is his native language or not? Cannot you see any hints there that he was simply too lazy (regardless of whether English is his native language or not) to bother writing his post properly in order to make it easier for others to read and understand? Are you that blind? Or is it just a matter of not being able to see what you don’t want to see? Actually, did you even (try to) read that post in full to begin with? > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Anyway I’m seriously tired of your toxic bullshite lies. Lies… Such as? **You** are the only one blatantly lying here, in this very post I’m replying to… > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Your shortsighted bullheaded prejudiced rants is a cancer upon this forum and will be reported if continued. ROFL. I’m scared now. Please don’t forget to also report this very post of yours I’m replying to when you do that… EDIT: For the record, he flagged my first post in this thread as “inappropriate” right after I posted this… 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/48 "2019-08-04T02:31:32Z")
I imagined literal sobbing noises along with the typing. ---
**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/49 "2019-08-05T01:19:41Z")
As DMC said, there’s nothing wrong with showing a fellow player some civility and some support. Especially if it seems that they might be a newer player, who has thoughts about the Eve they’ve been in so far, and post for some feedback or discussion. Eve forum wars used to be some sort of art (albeit a macaroni and paper plate one), craft, sport, or something or other. That was in the Childhood of MMOs Age through to the I Might to be Just About to Get Out of Puberty Age. There was only one real place for the entire Eve community to hang out and sling sh\*t, and that was the official Eve forums. Hundreds of people posting all kinds of random crap, the same using them for propaganda/mindtwist purposes, and hundreds playing the Art of Forums War. And thousands more just reading for daily updates on the news/drama. Your all-in-one source for what kind of surprising, stupid, and possibly incomprehensible thing might be going on in Eve today. So in those days, forum wars and being a forum warrior was kind of a thing. 1000s of players read along, played along, enjoyed popcorn, and never posted a thing. But these days, we are few in these forums. There’s the alternative of going to reddit, if you’re a beauty queen, and want to read upvoted chains of posts by people who found something amusing, or were there at the same place at the same time, or for some reason are in the same tribe with the same experience/grievance. In any event, toxicity was a kind of sport, and a mental dueling thing. Long gone. Eve created such an immersive world that what’s going on right now is in meta in Instagram, Twitter, etc., among the oldsters. And on Discord, etc. among many more others. This game is just to strange and amazing for me to ever understand ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/50 "2019-08-05T01:56:03Z")
> [@Khergit\_Deserters](#): > > …there’s nothing wrong with showing a fellow player some civility… _ **GBTW SCRUB PUBBIE SHITLER!!!** _ \*sigh You’re right…I miss the livelier forums pre-“ezwalification” and pre-reddxodus… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-going-to-need-to-spend-more-time-in-eve-after-the-change/179227/51 "2019-11-03T02:08:32Z")
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