# You have to fight for what you believe in

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [November 28, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206 "2019-11-28T00:21:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Vynneve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_vynneve/32/221118_2.png) [@Valerie\_Vynneve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Vynneve)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/41 "2019-12-05T19:49:44Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> shut your damn mouths and combat our common enemies

Shut your damn mouth and combat the common enemy instead of enslaving those who you say had better help you fight it.

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/42 "2019-12-05T20:45:03Z")

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We have been for the better part of a century, yet a bit over a decade ago we were stabbed in the back. One year ago it was proven the Minmatar have been continually poisoning our wells since by fomenting rebellions, and going so far as to take advantage of a _Blooder_ attack on our territory, making them complicit.

We do not have the option of shrugging off the continual insults and threats any longer. Floseswin is a warning shot of what is to come if the provocateurs get their way. Heed the lesson, swallow your pride, and cease those offenses and perhaps we may rethink our methods of negotiation.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/43 "2019-12-05T21:07:31Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> One year ago it was proven the Minmatar have been continually poisoning our wells since by fomenting rebellions, and going so far as to take advantage of a _Blooder_ attack on our territory, making them complicit.

Oh, please. I know you’re not allowed to think for yourself, Meatpuppet, but no, nobody was _complicit_ in the Blooder attack on Thebeka. Stop your illegal slave-raiding, and _maybe_ you’ll have a leg to stand on… but probably not.

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/44 "2019-12-05T21:09:42Z")

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For something that is illegal, the greatest leaders of New Eden seem to have a difficult time stating it plainly.

Perhaps the militia wars started by the Elder Fleet had some unintended consequences for the instigators. Fitting.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/45 "2019-12-05T21:11:03Z")

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As if it started then. Stars, you become more incredibly dull and empty-headed by the day, Meatpuppet.

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/46 "2019-12-05T21:39:31Z")

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Then if the war never stopped, finish it already.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/47 "2019-12-05T21:47:10Z")

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You seem grumpy today, Newelle.

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/48 "2019-12-05T23:29:44Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> the continual insults and threats any longer. Floseswin is a warning shot of what is to come if the provocateurs get their way. Heed the lesson, swallow your pride, and cease those offenses and perhaps we may rethink our methods of negotiation.

Ever hear the phrase _timing is everything_? Your warning shot is taking place when as you put it, we should be coming together to address this imminent threat. As far as your leaders act, “let’s let the cluster burn because our feelings were hurt.” You have quite the timing to show your displeasure in us. Let Amarr burn, I’ll be busy helping the State and the Federation since they seem to hold some common sense. Watch the hands you bite, someday they may offer you food.

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**Author:** ![Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalodote_lafisques/32/388261_2.png) [@Kalodote\_Lafisques](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalodote_Lafisques)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/49 "2019-12-06T09:29:17Z")

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One day we should organize some pacific discussion session without the chance that would degenerate in another argument especially in these kind of threads that could start with a good purpose of exchange of opinions…

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/50 "2019-12-06T13:19:42Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> You seem grumpy today, Newelle.

You did notice that, but didn’t notice how Arrendiot was blatantly insulting him with her half-witted remarks?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/you-have-to-fight-for-what-you-believe-in/203206/51 "2020-03-05T13:19:47Z")

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