# Your product Helping scmmers

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [March 2, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326 "2020-03-02T16:49:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/21 "2020-03-03T14:43:25Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> Eh. The trade window scams can be petitioned since it’s a lag thing. And lag things can be petitioned.

You can petition anything if you want. You can get caught by 100 stealth bombers with your ratting super and petition your loss.

The problem here is that the thing you call lag, is a part of the game. Eve is based around 1 second increments. You cannot petition and expect to win, when you failed to catch a travel-ceptor because the server tick let him escape. We’ve known about this, and we accepted this as part of the game.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/22 "2020-03-03T14:46:43Z")

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> [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](#):
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> I don’t think we should actively advocate for any player to leave the game. It’s hard for me to comprehend that anyone playing this game hasn’t been made aware of the reputation this game and its players have… not that it’s a bad thing, but the fact that you are so open and vulnerable to other players taking advantage of you is something that all players should know upon creating their account

To be fair he did say he will quit if this wasn’t fixed, and we all know this is legitimate game mechanics.

If someone says they want to leave, it’s their life. We wont stop them. EVE is a harsh and careless mistress. Not everyone can satisfy her voracious appetite for passionate PvP.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/24 "2020-03-04T01:31:09Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> The problem here is that the thing you call lag, is a part of the game. Eve is based around 1 second increments. You cannot petition and expect to win, when you failed to catch a travel-ceptor because the server tick let him escape. We’ve known about this, and we accepted this as part of the game.

Trade window scams based on game lag were retarded, it literally just made everyone have to use contracts instead unless they were completely ignorant of the mechanics or stupid. At least with the new system you have to be a complete idiot to be scammed now, the way the game should be.

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/25 "2020-03-04T03:50:48Z")

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The only other legit thing i can think of that would benefit OP, is if he was actually convinced into spending that much money to dump into the game to buy that particular ship to trade it…

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**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/26 "2020-03-04T15:53:06Z")

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Yes unfortunately we’ve all been scammed by CCP spending money on this game. It’s a sad addiction.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/27 "2020-03-05T10:09:52Z")

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You used the trade window to sell a JF? the RL equivalent is having a walk in a brazilian favela with 500k € jewelry on, late at night, alone…

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**Author:** ![Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ahari_chent-shi/32/249476_2.png) [@Ahari\_Chent-Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ahari_Chent-Shi)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/28 "2020-03-05T10:49:17Z")

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First the IRS cracks down on my eThot income, now CCP??

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**Author:** ![Scorsigaar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorsigaar/32/437680_2.png) [@Scorsigaar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scorsigaar)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/29 "2020-03-05T12:29:27Z")

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In other MMO’S stupid people are annoying. In EvE they’re a valuable asset.

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**Author:** ![Poor\_Sap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/poor_sap/32/333206_2.png) [@Poor\_Sap](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Poor_Sap)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/30 "2020-05-08T01:18:28Z")

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I thought you said you were leaving. Aren’t you gone, yet? We can see your recent epic losses on zkillboard:

> **[Ikitursa | Chaji kel'star | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/81281155/)**
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> Chaji kel'star (DanJev United) lost their Ikitursa in JO-32L (Feythabolis). Final Blow by Soldier Forrester (New Order Outreach Division) flying in a Drekavac. Total Value: 2,392,003,562.69 ISK

  

> **[Capsule | Chaji kel'star | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/81281164/)**
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> Chaji kel'star (DanJev United) lost their Capsule in JO-32L (Feythabolis). Final Blow by NiXoR x (New Order Outreach Division) flying in a Kikimora. Total Value: 1,772,610,276.63 ISK

  

> **[Ikitursa | Chaji kel'star | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/81993021/)**
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> Chaji kel'star (DanJev United) lost their Ikitursa in JO-32L (Feythabolis). Final Blow by Linda Rosing (No Vacancies) flying in a Omen Navy Issue. Total Value: 2,125,504,553.47 ISK

  

> **[Ikitursa | Chaji kel'star | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/84000499/)**
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> Chaji kel'star (DanJev United) lost their Ikitursa in HYPL-V (Feythabolis). Final Blow by David VanDerSmith (achtung partizanen) flying in a Brutix. Total Value: 1,927,002,751.98 ISK

  

> **[Capsule | Chaji kel'star | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/84000508/)**
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> Chaji kel'star (DanJev United) lost their Capsule in HYPL-V (Feythabolis). Final Blow by David VanDerSmith (achtung partizanen) flying in a Brutix. Total Value: 895,663,898.71 ISK

What a loot piniata!

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**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/31 "2020-05-08T01:37:35Z")

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isk sent plz contract to this character in-game(EVE) or deliver to system LXQ2-T.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/your-product-helping-scmmers/223326/32 "2020-08-06T01:37:37Z")

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