# Zarzakh changes pushed by CSM **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [October 18, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292 "2023-10-18T20:51:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Esnaelc\_Sin\_led](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/esnaelc_sin_led/32/409855_2.png) [@Esnaelc\_Sin\_led](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Esnaelc_Sin_led)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/41 "2023-11-03T16:19:42Z")
I don’t understand why one would allow bubbles INSIDE Zarzakh just to prevent the supposed “highway”. If nullsec-ers are threatened by this, why don’t you just organise to Scout this system 24/7 and have something ready to bubble the sh\*t out of G-0Q86 & H-PA29 when needed ? Just like someone arrogantly proposed to ‘bring friend’ in order to adapt to this change, why don’t YOU guys adapt instead ? For once. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/43 "2023-11-05T04:50:24Z")
Has anyone even explained what _exactly_ they are so afraid of? I mean, all their stuff is on stations that have multiple timers. All their stations have Asset Safety (lol), so even if some fall, not much of value is destroyed. So what _exactly_ is so horrifying that they cannot just counter-mobilize the next day(s) and fight it? I mean, shouldn’t they just be _happy_ for any invasion or whatever content someone might bring to them via Zarzakh? They _do_ play the game to use their spaceships to shoot other spaceships, right? ---
**Author:** ![Cosmic\_Estidal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cosmic_estidal/32/394122_2.png) [@Cosmic\_Estidal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cosmic_Estidal)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/44 "2023-11-13T13:04:43Z")
The ticks are percentage hull based, you are more vulnerable in a battleship ---
**Author:** ![Mordechai\_Maccabee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mordechai_maccabee/32/423300_2.png) [@Mordechai\_Maccabee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mordechai_Maccabee)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/45 "2023-11-18T02:43:07Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > eath zone of Zarzakh. This isn’t just some random null sec system. Turning around is going deeper into the death zone, that is a non viable answer. You need to provide actual answers. Warping away while in the death zone, destroys your ship while you are in warp, you have to get to the safe area before warping away. You can’t just warp aw Im just confused at how slowing a super fleet with a bubble for what 5 min max when there going to a tydye fight is significant in any sense of the word ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/46 "2023-11-18T02:53:35Z")
I’d like to repeat my question, since we didn’t get an answer from either the Nullsec CSMs nor CCP why Zarzakh having bubbles allowed is _nessessary_ and _good for the game_ at all: > [@Syzygium](#): > > Has anyone even explained what _exactly_ they are so afraid of? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/47 "2023-11-18T04:21:50Z")
> [@Mordechai\_Maccabee](#): > > Im just confused at how slowing a super fleet with a bubble for what 5 min max when there going to a tydye fight is significant in any sense of the word It’s a huge deal. Slow folks down, make it harder to get through fight, people start making mistakes, you start picking off stragglers - harassing fleets as they get to a fight or are trying to disengage is critical in nullsec fights. Nothing more morale sapping than surviving the fight, but dying on the route home. ---
**Author:** ![Mordechai\_Maccabee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mordechai_maccabee/32/423300_2.png) [@Mordechai\_Maccabee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mordechai_Maccabee)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/48 "2023-11-18T18:02:12Z")
ya but its a tydie fiight 5 minutes is nothing its not a big enough deal to have the downsides for the rest of eve to deal with i have a hard time believing the only people in game ccp should care about are the null blocks any more. Its stupid. Wormholes are left to rot and this is supposed to be big low sec game warfare and were bowing to null blocks that are afraid that moving a fleet is an issue. I have a problem believing anyone in a super is going to get left behind by competent fcs If you guys dropped your super fleets i would have said at least your doing something but you havent done that to bring in the people that get amazed by the 50000 dollar money war but because supers and titans are so hard to build little guys no longer have access to these things. And no longer fielding these things makes them not want to lower the cost again. So please tell me why eve needs more pi in capitals (without a qol change to pi) and bubbles in zarzach. @Brisc_Rubal ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/49 "2023-11-19T07:03:57Z")
That isnt even the big elephant in the room. Why do they need to bubble Zarzakh? Why can’t they just put their roadblock **one** system behind? If they really want to protect their beloved nullsec from whatever content anyone might want to bring to them, by all means they shall put a thousand bubbles up in G-0Q86 and H-PA29. But leave Zarzakh alone. The area-damage mechanic in there together with the facts that you can’t bookmark and only have a few selected paths to warp just makes this change outright stupid and hurtful for anyone else to cater the nullblocks paranoia. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/50 "2023-11-19T09:55:45Z")
Brisc still making a fool of himself with claiming mighty nullsec must harass enemy fleets in Zarzakh so they can win elsewhere, but else I haven’t seen a bubble in Zarzakh so far. For now I would say it’s a non-issue. ---
**Author:** ![Malice\_Redeemer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malice_redeemer/32/384983_2.png) [@Malice\_Redeemer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malice_Redeemer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/51 "2023-11-19T11:35:04Z")
They don’t have to, they can just put on the tear eyes and ask papi ccp to fix it for them. So why would they put any effort in? ---
**Author:** ![Corvus\_Shinzon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corvus_shinzon/32/309792_2.png) [@Corvus\_Shinzon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corvus_Shinzon)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/52 "2023-11-20T13:39:02Z")
works as intended [Battle Report Tool (evetools.org)](https://br.evetools.org/br/655b58c118ba5b041ed00679) ---
**Author:** ![Morphias](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morphias/32/395427_2.png) [@Morphias](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morphias)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/53 "2023-11-20T14:16:38Z")
Classic response 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![oRosHKin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oroshkin/32/389784_2.png) [@oRosHKin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/oRosHKin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/54 "2023-11-20T16:11:22Z")
make a bm in a perch from the gate, warp to it everytime and use your dscan, if you dont have bubbles on your dscan you clearly dont know what you doing… ---
**Author:** ![oRosHKin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oroshkin/32/389784_2.png) [@oRosHKin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/oRosHKin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/55 "2023-11-20T16:11:52Z")
good scouting ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/56 "2023-11-20T17:29:21Z")
You know that neither bookmarks nor dscan, nor probes work in Zarzakh? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/57 "2023-11-20T18:37:25Z")
Oh look, Tipa being snarky and wrong as usual. > **[Zarzakh (Yasna Zakh) 2023-11-20, 14:00 ET](https://br.evetools.org/br/655b5826eb77060406173af3)** > > Battle involved 286 pilots > who lost a total of 105.0b isk [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/17zqwlw/the\_frat\_farce\_2023\_colourized/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/17zqwlw/the_frat_farce_2023_colourized/) ---
**Author:** ![Mordechai\_Maccabee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mordechai_maccabee/32/423300_2.png) [@Mordechai\_Maccabee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mordechai_Maccabee)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/58 "2023-11-20T19:16:54Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/8/3/b83aa50497746ae485d22c4098db1af9bbce851a.jpeg "Zarzakh init+DeepWater vs FRT PH Nightmare EVE Online") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g78NKJAkxq4) and now no longer a non issue This is just stupid @Brisc_Rubal ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/59 "2023-11-20T19:28:39Z")
Nope - that’s an amazing way to kill a fleet. Exactly what I wanted to see happen. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/60 "2023-11-20T19:30:18Z")
It’s beyond stupid. Holy ■■■■ is that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292/61 "2023-11-20T20:01:34Z")
Well played, didn’t expect somebody that big being that ignorant about Zarzakh. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/zarzakh-changes-pushed-by-csm/424292.md?page=4)