Surgical Strike Update Follow-up

[Cypr3ss_Deteis]

@Luscius_Uta

Also, why I won’t be able to put two heavy capacitor boosters on my Apostle? They’re still worse than one capital cap booster.

Why would you want to if they’re worse, just the use the one capital cap booster and be done with it?

Regards,
Cypr3ss.

[DragoFire]

@M_Cincinnatus

Does the damage buff include all short range ammo, or just the short short range ammo? If not all, then can we also get a damage buff to null, scorch, etc… Please?

only T2 blaster, Pulse and Autocannon short range ammo.

[Scipio_Artelius]

@DragoFire

only T2 blaster, Pulse and Autocannon short range ammo.

and rockets too right?

[James_Baboli]

@DragoFire

@M_Cincinnatus

Does the damage buff include all short range ammo, or just the short short range ammo? If not all, then can we also get a damage buff to null, scorch, etc… Please?

only T2 blaster, Pulse and Autocannon short range ammo.

And rockets, torpedos, and HAMs using rage ammo. Might have forgotten some, but I’m not a missiles guy.

[Meeko_Gloom]

@CCP_Rise @CCP_Dopamine

I would strongly suggest looking at adding Cyno Inhibition to the effects of the Bastion Module

This would increase the usage and usefulness of Marauders in PVP and as a role in a fleet. It would also give balance to capital pvp.

It would also give Marauders a fighting chance in solo pvp because currently they are HAW dread magnets.

This would be a great justification for their price in relation to capitals and reason to fly an underused ship class.

[Chadwikk]

@CCP_Rise @CCP_Dopamine

No comment on last two viable minmatar sub caps being taken out back and put down?

[Scipio_Artelius]

@Meeko_Gloom

I would strongly suggest looking at adding Cyno Inhibition to the effects of the Bastion Module

This becomes better than a cyno inhibitor for capital fleets. Too OP.

[M_Cincinnatus]

@DragoFire

@M_Cincinnatus

Does the damage buff include all short range ammo, or just the short short range ammo? If not all, then can we also get a damage buff to null, scorch, etc… Please?

only T2 blaster, Pulse and Autocannon short range ammo.

This is where there might be some confusion which is why I am asking for clarification. For example, blaster T2 ammo has Void, the short short range ammo, and Null, the short long range ammo. The dev post only refers to the short short range ammo, which is why I was asking.

[Cypr3ss_Deteis]

@Shuro_Chi

Finally, a response, and from a dev I actually have some faith in. Thank you @CCP_Rise for listening to us and getting back to us so quickly.

Damn, you have faith… that is… surprising… because I still remember the thread where he stated

@CCP_Rise

Our plan is to to begin building back towards reasonable power balance for ECM ships and modules under the new mechanic, and we will make the first step in that direction this November.

And that was in October of 2018… guess how much things have changed since then (well since November when they took the ‘first step’)… that’s right, not one bit

So I have less faith that a response from CCP Rise will lead to anything other than the lip service of the initial post.

Regards,
Cypr3ss.

[Meeko_Gloom]

Yea but when they are in bastion… they can’t catch reps so they will die quicker than a regular inhib that’s supported by FAX

[James_Baboli]

It’s just the short shorts per SISI

(obligitory who shoots short shorts joke)

[M_Cincinnatus]

@James_Baboli

It’s just the short shorts per SISI

(obligitory who shoots short shorts joke)

Ok, good to know. Hence why I am then asking for a buff for short longs.

Sorry, I’m bad with jokes, got nuthin for short shorts humor…

[Shade_Millith]

You haven’t addressed any of the issues surrounding the resist nerf.

1. Buffing kiters.
2. Nerfing brawlers.
3. Buffing cheap doctrines.
4. Nerfing expensive small fleet doctrines.
5. Nerfing all doctrines other than the Muninn.
6. Buffing suicide ganking against everything other than freighters.

Please, just scrap the resist nerf. This is a bad idea.

[Archer_en_Tilavine]

@Shade_Millith

You haven’t addressed any of the issues surrounding the resist nerf.

1. Buffing kiters - why would this be bad?
2. Nerfing brawlers - they got +15% to T2 short range ammo
3. Buffing cheap doctrines - this is a good thing
4. Nerfing expensive small fleet doctrines. - this is a good thing
5. Nerfing all doctrines other than the Muninn. - elaborate?
6. Buffing suicide ganking against everything other than freighters.- they planning on buffing base HP of certain classes of ships in response to emergent behavior and feedback. I anticipate T1/T2 transports and barges will also get some love

[Benji_Rackner]

Honestly as a ganker I would be happy scrapping this change

[Onictus]

@Scoots_Choco

How many “smaller groups” are trying to fight with 200 people on a hostile Fortizar grid with FAXes? Especially if they’re fighting against “the blob” who can just dreadbomb those FAXes.

Who are these mythical “small groups” that you’re talking about because I’ve never seen them before.

A lot of the time you aren’t going to burn timers to dreadbomb for a structure bash, jump ranges are a thing.

[Scoots_Choco]

@Onictus

jump ranges are a thing.

If jump ranges is what is preventing you from bashing, you’re bad at the game and need to learn how to plan and prepare.

[Scipio_Artelius]

@Archer_en_Tilavine

they planning on buffing base HP of certain classes of ships in response to emergent behavior and feedback.

Where have they said this, for anything other than a HP increase for Freighters?

[Archer_en_Tilavine]

@CCP_Rise

Depending on results from those investigations we will look at further changes if necessary.

said in context of HP buffs

[Onictus]

@Scoots_Choco

If jump ranges is what is preventing you from bashing, you’re bad at the game and need to learn how to plan and prepare.

No you mung, if a large null block were knocking off a forti owned by a 60 man allaince with a sub hundred man defense fleet most won’t bother moving caps unless they are in jumprange from staging.

If not you just zerg them under with massed HACs or Ferroxes.