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Selling my pilot Casual Chaos – effectively a 28M SP character when you include the massive 6.6M unallocated SP (≈12b ISK in injectors). This is basically a “build-your-own” toon ready to be molded into whatever role you need.

:link: SkillQ Sheet
:link: QSNA Character Info

:key: Highlights

  • Total SP: 21,237,804

  • Unallocated SP: 6,625,000

    • That’s over 16 injectors worth of SP (every 400k ≈ 730m ISK).

    • At injector market value, you’re looking at ≈ 12b ISK+ potential just in free SP!

    • Means you can instantly reshape this toon into a HAC/Logi/Dictor specialist, Marauder base, or push capital injects.

  • Bonus Side Benefit

    • This character also has the Ikitursa Nifhel Gildclaw SKIN installed.

    • Current Jita value: ~27b ISK.

    • A nice collector’s item and rare SKIN on top of the SP package.

:hammer_and_wrench: Core Strengths

  • Spaceship Command (6.7M SP)

    • Caldari Cruiser V / Precursor Cruiser V

    • Gallente Destroyer V / Minmatar Destroyer V

    • Gallente Hauler V / Minmatar Hauler trained

    • Heavy Assault Cruiser, Logistics Cruiser, Interdictors, Transport Ships queued up

  • Gunnery Beast (8.5M SP)

    • Large Precursor Weapon V

    • Medium Energy + Precursor Weapon V

    • Surgical Strike V, Motion Prediction V, Trajectory Analysis V

    • All small guns (energy/projectile/hybrid/precursor) to V with specs

  • Drones (base + training queued)

    • Drone Interfacing queued up

    • Good foundation for ratting or PvP utility

  • Navigation / Engineering

    • Cyno IV queued → useful fleet alt

    • Afterburner / Acceleration Control / Evasive Maneuvering lined up

    • Full fitting skills: CPU Mgmt V, Power Grid V, Weapon Upgrades V

:chart_increasing: Skill Queue Direction

Currently skilling towards:

  • Drone Interfacing IV

  • Shield Comps to III

  • Capacitor/Engineering IV–V

  • HAC III (Sept 22)

  • Logi III (Oct 18)

  • Dictors III queued up

:gem_stone: Why Buy This Toon?

  • You’re basically buying a customizable 21M SP character + 6.6M SP in liquid injectors.

  • Great gunnery foundation, multiple racial cruisers/destroyers V, cyno trained, and queued for all the useful subcap lines.

  • With the unallocated SP, you can instantly pivot into:

    • Carrier/BLOPs prep

    • Marauders / BS doctrines

    • Max out HAC/Logi overnight

  • Extra kicker: toon already holds a rare 27b ISK Ikitursa SKIN.

:fire: Starting Bid: Open

B/O: Make me a strong offer (keep in mind the 12b+ unallocated value + 27b SKIN installed).

All CCP rules apply, toon in NPC corp, positive sec/wallet, transfer ready. In Jita - Full Set of +5 Training implants also. :grinning_face:

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13b offer. Before you waive this off as a lowball, please consider why I would throw that out there- while you do write a great sales pitch, the goods don’t necessarily back it up.

The “lined up” skills are not value beyond the trivial isk invested in the skill books. Likewise it can’t even fly the ship it has the rare skin for. While the skin might add some value to people who care about cosmetics, it doesn’t do much for the usability of the toon.

The un-allocated SP (and much,much more in injectors and/or training time) would need to be immediately spent on the weak navigation, tank, and targeting skills, and other big-ticket items like AWU (currently at 0.) It has t2 medium energy turrets yet can barely fly any ship that mounts them (amaar Cruiser 3/BC 0, could sit in a phantasam but lol at flying one with those nav/fitting skills even after spending the unallocated SP.) - likewise having only one racial frig to V, and 3 destroyers, yet none of the skills (or even pre-reqs) for the t2 versions, and half the ships it can sit in, it can’t get much use out of due to the complete and utter lack of missile skills.

6.6msp is a drop in the bucket compared to the lofty goals you laid our, “carrier/blops prep” as if the jump drive skills required for either wouldn’t cost more than that, ditto any marauder or BS doctrine due to missing pre-reqs and 0 SP invested in battleships or large weapons beyond Triglavian

The only HAC or logi it could ‘max out’ would be the Eagle and Basilisk (no missile skills for cerb, maxing out another racial cruiser + Logi cruiser skill and remote armor or shield repair systems would take all that SP)

This char sheet reads like someone was starting to train a faction warfare toon or pvp alt, then tried to swerve it into a Leshak out of nowhere.

P.S. rounding up 27,862,804 to 28,000,000 is a nice touch, trying to sneak in almost half an LSI there.

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You said it wasn’t 28M SP, I sent you the screenshot and proved you wrong — so duck on that one. :duck:

This toon isn’t built to “do everything,” it’s built to be shaped. No wasted long skills, no dead ends — just a solid 28M SP base with 6.6M unallocated ready to drop where you want. It’s the kind of character you buy and decide your next 3 months of direction, not one that locks you into somebody else’s past choices.

The skin add no value just something I wanted a buyer to know he or she is getting. Whats wrong with that.

So yeah, appreciate the offer — but a lowball like that? Hard pass.

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bro ur a pro low baller. Clealry he isn’t a 100msp pilot. if you dont have the imagination on how to use this toon and the 6msp then why talk so much nonsense.

This toon is worth at least 28b since his 6msp unallocates would make him isk wise worth over 30b easly. i see no wasted indy skills so its for the buyer that wants to build him up. Just sold my toon for 7b more than the timewaster who said i wasnt worth 22b, so hold tight and you will get a buyer, there are people here always trying to get a toon way below his value so they can make a buck.

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Going off what you had previously linked, not what you’ve added since creating the link, is less than 28mil. Thanks for the update.

That’s a fair assessment on the future usability- its just nowhere near half of the things you’re claiming in the original post.

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Ok, tell me what exactly I claimed that wasn’t true.

I never said this toon was perfect in any one thing. What I said is simple: you can pick a focus and push it further than I have now. With 6.6M unallocated SP you can decide and get very close to most roles. Will it be flawless? No — but tell me which 28M SP toon is.

Capitals? Sure, not close yet. But anyone buying a 28M SP toon is thinking about what it can do now and what it can be trained into. That’s where the value is. Add 6.6M unallocated + ~2M/month over 3 months and you’re looking at 12.6M SP of progress in your chosen direction. With smart choices, that’s an amazing pilot in whatever path you want.

You buy this toon, you’re not stuck with someone else’s dead-end plan — you get to choose the next 3 months of its future. Most toons on the market don’t offer that much flexibility. That’s why this one is valuable.

What more does anyone want from a 28msp. A perfect toon means such focus on 1 thing its usless in everything else and takes even longer to skill up another focus.

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Categorically

  • Capitals/blops
    -Marauders/BS doctrines
    -Maxing out all but one HAC / Logi Cruiser
    All out of reach of the injectable SP, and for the hac/logi cruiser you can fly, you’re short on support skills (and most HACs are tight on fitting, so good luck with Advanced Weapon Upgrades 0)

Its a nice thing to have, and nice for someone who needs that flexibility, sure, but no matter what you want to use this toon for, the ‘free’ SP isn’t really free, it’ll be immediately spent on the neglected support skills- if things were trained to even 4, its worth looking at, but the smattering of I / II / III’s is going eat it all up.

Its worth more than the low offer i threw out but its not worth much more than the raw SP value.

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You’re making no sense. Almost none of my skills are wasted — they’re all things any PvPer would eventually train. OMG, a 22M+ SP toon doesn’t have everything yet? Shocker.

If I had 3M SP dumped into mining, fine, you’d have a point. But 98% of this sheet is straight PvP-relevant. That’s the reality.

So either you don’t have the ISK, don’t have the brain to see what this toon could become, or you’re just trolling. Either way, you’re not a serious buyer — just a time waster.

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Where did I say wasted? The only person to use that word in this thread is you.

I said the “free” SP would be obligated to spent on this toon’s missing support skills before training to any other purpose, and that having a massive SP investment in t2 shack gun / t2 medium disintegrator is ‘useless’ not because those weapon systems are bad, just that it was an overreach on the part of whomever created this character, as only a fool is undocking any of the ships that use those weapons with those poor support skills (again, if they could even get the gun to fit without AWU trained at all. Maybe triple ACR-rigged leshaks with no utility highslots and thin armor tank are the meta somewhere?)

The only “wasted” SP anyone could make an argument for is the single Caldari subsytem trained all the way up - 256,000 SP in a skill for a ship that requires 5 other skills to sit in and that you can’t use the weapons for, nor have the tank skills for, not its racial ewar trained… can you even covops cloak with cloaking 3? No? Then there’s some ‘waste’ iif you’re so determined to find some, even though that isn’t what i said in the first place.

No one is expecting a 22mil SP toon to have “everything” but likewise you shouldn’t expect anyone to pay more than 24bil out the door for this mess, but who knows? After all the easiest money to be made in eve is made by getting people to overpay. Re-posting the thread because you didn’t like the assessment of what your selling is quite crafty. Add in a few more emojis and bits of bold text and you just may find your buyer.