L4 Security Minmatar Battleship

Okay I have made some changes based on what has happened and what I was looking at in armor tanking. My DPS dropped slightly but I should be a lot tankier.

[Typhoon, Simulated Typhoon Fitting]
Large ‘Accommodation’ Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Armor Explosive Hardener I
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Micro Jump Drive
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster
Missile Guidance Computer II
Missile Guidance Computer II
Phased Scoped Target Painter

‘Arbalest’ Cruise Launcher I
‘Arbalest’ Cruise Launcher I
‘Arbalest’ Cruise Launcher I
‘Arbalest’ Cruise Launcher I
‘Arbalest’ Cruise Launcher I
‘Arbalest’ Cruise Launcher I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Anti-Explosive Pump I
Large Anti-Thermal Pump I

Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Acolyte II x5

Mjolnir Cruise Missile x3000
Scourge Cruise Missile x3000
Inferno Cruise Missile x3138
Nova Cruise Missile x3000
Targeting Range Script x1
Missile Range Script x3
Scan Resolution Script x1
Missile Precision Script x3

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How does this look?

That’s looking a lot more viable.
I’ve a feeling you’ll suffer with the capacitor - but I’ve no real feel for that; Amarrian hulls tend to have bigger capacitors. Try it and if you are suffering then it’s either a cap recharger or a rig…
Missiles; the faction missiles (Caldari) aren’t horribly expensive given they give a good (and not stacked) increase in damage - it’ll probably be enough to push you over 500dps. OK. They feel expensive; but when you look at mission and bounty payments not using them is a bit of a false economy.

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That’s because, it’s wrong.
Stacking penalty does not make the module useless.
It makes it much less efficient. But in some cases, that efficiency is worth it (eg if you are shield tanking and don’t need that low anyhow)

wrong. That’s just wrong. even a 4th BCU adds some DPS.

If I have base 100.3 DPs on a ship

  • 1 BCU 123.3 => +23
  • 2 BCU 147.5 => +24.2
  • 3 BCU 165.8 => +18.3
  • 4 BCU 175.7 => +9.9
  • 4 BCU + calefaction T2 185.7 => +12.7
  • 5 BCU 179.6 => +3.9

The 4th BCU is only 43% as effective as the first one.
The 5th one is 17%

Which of these skills should I prioritize for DPS gains? I am using cruise missiles. I don’t always make sense to others so which ones should I train first out of the ones in my queue and am I missing anything else to help boost DPS not including drone skills since I don’t get to use them much.

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  • AT is useless
  • if you use cruise missiles : HAM, LM, rockets, HM, torps are useless

so you have cruise and the utility.
cruise missile you want to use specialization. so you need cruise V fast. then spe IV .

utilities :

  • guided missile precision multiplies your application by 1/(1-0.05*skill), so L5 it’s +33% application IE +33% effective DPS.
  • missile bombardment multiplies the range by (1+0.1*skill) so in the end it’s +50% range
  • missile launcher operation is a mul of raw DPS by 1/(1-0.02*skill) so +11.1% max
  • missile projection is like missile bombardment.
  • rapid launch is raw DPS * 1/(1-0.03*skills) so +17.6% DPS at max
  • target navigation prediction multiplies your application by 1+0.1*skill so effeciveley +50% applied DPS at max
  • warhead upgrade is a flat (1+0.02skill) increase in applied DPS so +10% at max

the “range” skills are the least important ones.
the “application” skills are actually the best, followed closely by the raw DPS skills

but actually, what you should do is, for each of the raw DPS and application skills, compute the gain multiplication for given level, use log (because it’s multiplicative) and divide by the time (eg in days) to find the increase level per days of the skill level. and learn the one that has the highest value.

I had some spare time so I made it

level 1 2 3 4 5
guided missile precision 0.8718 0.1973 0.0369 0.0069 0.0013
missile launcher operation 1.6829 0.3544 0.0615 0.0107 0.0018
rapid launch 1.2943 0.2867 0.0523 0.0096 0.0017
target navigation prediction 4.0500 0.7940 0.1291 0.0211 0.0035
warhead upgrades 0.3434 0.0753 0.0136 0.0025 0.0004
cruise missile 0.8293 0.1698 0.0287 0.0049 0.0008
cruise missile spec 0.2104 0.0443 0.0077 0.0013 0.0002
torp 1.0366 0.2122 0.0359 0.0061 0.0010
torp spec 0.2104 0.0443 0.0077 0.0013 0.0002
HM 1.3822 0.2830 0.0478 0.0081 0.0014
HM spe 0.3366 0.0709 0.0123 0.0021 0.0004
HAM 1.3822 0.2830 0.0478 0.0081 0.0014
HAM spe 0.3366 0.0709 0.0123 0.0021 0.0004
LM 2.0732 0.4245 0.0717 0.0121 0.0021
LM spe 0.5610 0.1181 0.0205 0.0036 0.0006
rocket 4.1465 0.8490 0.1434 0.0243 0.0041
rocket spe 0.5610 0.1181 0.0205 0.0036 0.0006
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in your case you can learn :

  • rapid launch 4,5 : 0.0096 , 0.0017
  • target nav pred 4,5 : 0.0211 , 0.0035
  • warhead upgrades 3,4,5 : 0.0136, 0.0025 , 0.0004
  • cruise missile 4, 5 : 0.0049 , 0.0008
  • cruise missile spec 1…5

in order or best to least it’s thus

  1. target nav IV : 0.0211
  2. warhead III : 0.0136
  3. rapid launch IV : 0.0096
  4. cruise IV : 0.0049
  5. target nav V : 0.0035
  6. warhead IV : 0.0025
  7. rapid launch V : 0.0017
  8. cruise V : 0.0008
  9. cruise spec I-IV : …0.0010
  10. warhead V : 0.0004
  11. cruise spec V : 0.0002
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Or rigors… but yeah, 455 dps on cruise typhoon sounds… little - that is dps of long range weapon fitted battlecruiser

cruise missile, rapid launch, target navigation prediction, guided missile precision and warhead upgrades

If u like projectile I suggest u aim for:

  • MACHARIEL *
    It can be expensive but its worth it. Fit it with AC the ship gives them bonus to falloff+ some trancking enhancer at low and gyros Its savage with good skills u can pull + 1000k dps. Fit it shield tank.
    Otherwise Id prefere an armor tanked Typhon with cruise missiles.

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