Level 2 missions and the the DPS required to kill sentinels npcs

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Call me crazy but something seems to be changed since the last time running low level agent missions.

/edit Call me crazy… “Once you drop out of warp in pocket 2, the mission will complete, and you can warp out before the bad guys can lock you!” I am doing it all wrong. I’m killing them all and thinking why did things get so hard…" even though the mission is not showing complete.
Tin foil hat.

Screenshot showing the npc type, really nice bounties on them too for a lvl 2 mission and there were many, https://i.imgur.com/0Y4pwwI.jpg
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Level 2 mission title Recon,

My drones dont have enough dps to break their armor rep and each time I drop Sentry they are being chewed, same if I sit ontop and return to bay each time. Being in an VNI I need to be speedy as I have zero protection. hehe Idk I am on my way back to undock my battleship which I safe for level 4’s

Now. this is what I am thinking is happening.
If you are playing the game endlessly with the same setup for hours at a time the system applied a major DR to you or buffs the npcs.

I know if I log off for a day and return the same setup eats those type of npc’s

Now call me crazy and one day you will the DR effect or not!

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Well it is a ‘Recon’ mission, not a ‘Kill’ mission.

Anyway, the NPC’s only attack the same or larger drone size as their hull class.

So basically after you clear all small hull class NPC’s from the grid, you can launch Light Combat Drones and not worry about them being attacked.

Guess I have to call you crazy because I use my Loki to run all of the lv 4 epic arcs, it has the same fit for each arc and I’ve never seen any change.

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True, the mission was going smoothly up until I decided to not read the mission details and attacked the npcs at the gate like in that screenshot.

The mission didn’t complete so I attacked which pulled the room. I did however find it fun to return moments later in a battleship that was overkill for that mission.

Hey, thanks for replying and I am fine with being referred to as crazy.

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The main thing to remember is that the NPC’s hull class will attack drones of the same hull class and larger.

Small hull class NPC’s will attack Light, Medium, Heavy and Sentry Drones.
Medium hull class NPC’s will attack Medium, Heavy and Sentry Drones.
Large hull class NPC’s will attack Heavy and Sentry Drones.

Anyway, I think that mission completes after you access the gate. And yeah, the bounties are nice, just have to go in with a good gun ship.

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That is something I can honestly say that I had learnt from your reply just above and it is now very clear in your last.

I appreciate you for the knowledge you shared here.

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medium can attack light drones too.

here is the list of the entities with sig >=70 that can attack light drones, with their ig id, their signature radius, their group name, the drone sig they can accept (25 is small)

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name(id) signature group dronesig
Angel Clone Soldier Negotiator(33175) 90.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Angel Clone Soldier Recruiter(33143) 90.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Angel Clone Soldier Trainer (33132) 90.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Angel Clone Soldier Transporter(33173) 90.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Angel Lookout(33492) 160.0 Ghost Sites Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Angel Sentry(33494) 160.0 Ghost Sites Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Angel Warden(33491) 160.0 Ghost Sites Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Angel Watcher(33493) 160.0 Ghost Sites Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Breaker(23640) 185.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Centurion(22833) 150.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Crusher(23639) 160.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Defeater(23641) 185.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Depredator(22828) 110.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Liquidator(22831) 130.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Marauder(22830) 130.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Phalanx(22832) 150.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Predator(22829) 110.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Angel Smasher(23638) 160.0 Asteroid Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Breaker(24117) 185.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Centurion(24122) 150.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Crusher(24116) 160.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Defeater(24118) 185.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Depredator(24113) 110.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Liquidator(24120) 130.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Marauder(24119) 130.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Phalanx(24121) 150.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Predator(24114) 110.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Arch Gistum Smasher(24115) 160.0 Deadspace Angel Cartel Cruiser 25.0
Blood Clone Soldier Negotiator(33182) 90.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Blood Clone Soldier Recruiter (33144) 90.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Blood Clone Soldier Trainer(33135) 90.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Blood Clone Soldier Transporter(33172) 90.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Blood Lookout(33496) 170.0 Ghost Sites Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Blood Sentry(33498) 170.0 Ghost Sites Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Blood Warden(33495) 170.0 Ghost Sites Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Blood Watcher(33497) 170.0 Ghost Sites Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Burner Ashimmu(34785) 120.0 Mission Generic Cruisers 25.0
Burner Talos(34783) 125.0 Mission Generic Cruisers 25.0
Centum Loyal Beast(24079) 170.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Execrator(24082) 195.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Fiend(24085) 155.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Hellhound(24086) 155.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Juggernaut(24080) 170.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Mutilator(24083) 135.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Ravager(24078) 115.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Ravisher(24077) 115.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Slaughterer(24081) 195.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Centum Loyal Torturer(24084) 135.0 Deadspace Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Chief Republic Jarpur(24866) 150.0 Mission Minmatar Republic Cruiser 25.0
Chief Republic Klaki(24859) 160.0 Mission Minmatar Republic Cruiser 25.0
Chief Republic Manadis(24864) 130.0 Mission Minmatar Republic Cruiser 25.0
Chief Republic Orka(24865) 150.0 Mission Minmatar Republic Cruiser 25.0
Chief Republic Orsin(24860) 160.0 Mission Minmatar Republic Cruiser 25.0
Chief Republic Pafi(24861) 185.0 Mission Minmatar Republic Cruiser 25.0
Chief Republic Rodul(24863) 130.0 Mission Minmatar Republic Cruiser 25.0
Chief Republic Tenar(24862) 185.0 Mission Minmatar Republic Cruiser 25.0
Cleansing Flame Amarr Cruiser(42818) 170.0 Hidden Zenith Amarr Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Defender(24071) 140.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Guard(24069) 205.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Infantry(24073) 160.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Patroller(24068) 180.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Protector(24072) 140.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief SafeGuard(24070) 205.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Scout(24065) 120.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Sentinel(24074) 160.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Spy(24066) 120.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Corelum Guardian Chief Watchman(24067) 180.0 Deadspace Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Dire Guristas Abolisher(23310) 165.0 Asteroid Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Guristas Annihilator(23649) 215.0 Asteroid Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Guristas Ascriber(23306) 125.0 Asteroid Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Guristas Eraser(23309) 165.0 Asteroid Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Guristas Nullifier(23650) 215.0 Asteroid Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Guristas Silencer(23305) 125.0 Asteroid Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Pithum Abolisher(24098) 165.0 Deadspace Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Pithum Annihilator(24093) 215.0 Deadspace Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Pithum Ascriber(24090) 125.0 Deadspace Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Pithum Eraser(24097) 165.0 Deadspace Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Pithum Nullifier(24094) 215.0 Deadspace Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Dire Pithum Silencer(24089) 125.0 Deadspace Guristas Cruiser 25.0
Divine Imperial Ambrose(24970) 195.0 Mission Amarr Empire Cruiser 25.0
Divine Imperial Avenger(24973) 135.0 Mission Amarr Empire Cruiser 25.0
Divine Imperial Basil(24971) 195.0 Mission Amarr Empire Cruiser 25.0
Divine Imperial Champion(24975) 155.0 Mission Amarr Empire Cruiser 25.0
Divine Imperial Equalizer(24972) 135.0 Mission Amarr Empire Cruiser 25.0
Divine Imperial Justicar(24974) 155.0 Mission Amarr Empire Cruiser 25.0
Divine Imperial Tamir(24969) 170.0 Mission Amarr Empire Cruiser 25.0
Divine Imperial Wrath(24968) 170.0 Mission Amarr Empire Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Arch Engraver(23282) 115.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Arch Priest(23284) 135.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Arch Reaver(23281) 115.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Arch Sage(23283) 135.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Arch Templar(23643) 170.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Dark Priest(23286) 155.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Priest(23646) 195.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Revenant(23644) 170.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Sage(23645) 195.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Blood Shadow Sage(23285) 155.0 Asteroid Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Arch Engraver(24102) 115.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Arch Priest(24108) 135.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Arch Reaver(24101) 115.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Arch Sage(24107) 135.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Arch Templar(24103) 170.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Dark Priest(24110) 155.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Priest(24106) 195.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Revenant(24104) 170.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Sage(24105) 195.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elder Corpum Shadow Sage(24109) 155.0 Deadspace Blood Raiders Cruiser 25.0
Elite Federation Arx(25181) 205.0 Mission Gallente Federation Cruiser 25.0
Elite Federation Auxilia(25182) 205.0 Mission Gallente Federation Cruiser 25.0
Elite Federation Bearcus(25180) 180.0 Mission Gallente Federation Cruiser 25.0
Elite Federation Calo(25179) 180.0 Mission Gallente Federation Cruiser 25.0
Elite Federation Liburna(25183) 140.0 Mission Gallente Federation Cruiser 25.0
Elite Federation Mentes(25186) 160.0 Mission Gallente Federation Cruiser 25.0
Elite Federation Navis(25184) 140.0 Mission Gallente Federation Cruiser 25.0
Elite Federation Quadrieris(25185) 160.0 Mission Gallente Federation Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Defender(23446) 140.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Guard(23657) 205.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Infantry(23448) 160.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Patroller(23656) 180.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Protector(23447) 140.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Safeguard(23658) 205.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Scout(23444) 120.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Sentinel(23449) 160.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Spy(23445) 120.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Guardian Chief Watchman(23655) 180.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Sansha Clone Soldier Negotiator(33183) 90.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha Clone Soldier Recruiter(33142) 90.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha Clone Soldier Trainer(33136) 90.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha Clone Soldier Transporter(33163) 90.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Beast(23651) 170.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Execrator(23654) 195.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Fiend(23370) 155.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Hellhound(23371) 155.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Juggernaut(23652) 170.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Mutilator(23368) 135.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Ravager(23367) 115.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Ravisher(23366) 115.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Slaughterer(23653) 195.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Loyal Torturer(23369) 135.0 Asteroid Sansha’s Nation Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Nation Lookout(33504) 170.0 Ghost Sites Sanshas Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Nation Sentry(33506) 170.0 Ghost Sites Sanshas Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Nation Warden(33503) 170.0 Ghost Sites Sanshas Cruiser 25.0
Sansha’s Nation Watcher(33505) 170.0 Ghost Sites Sanshas Cruiser 25.0
Serpentis Burner Cruiser(34592) 125.0 Mission Generic Cruisers 25.0
Serpentis Clone Soldier Negotiator(33185) 90.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Serpentis Clone Soldier Recruiter (33146) 90.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Serpentis Clone Soldier Trainer(33137) 90.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Serpentis Clone Soldier Transporter(33164) 90.0 Asteroid Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Serpentis Lookout(33508) 180.0 Ghost Sites Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Serpentis Sentry(33510) 180.0 Ghost Sites Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Serpentis Warden(33507) 180.0 Ghost Sites Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Serpentis Watcher(33509) 180.0 Ghost Sites Serpentis Cruiser 25.0
Taibu State Bajo(25081) 165.0 Mission Caldari State Cruiser 25.0
Taibu State Daimyo(25078) 215.0 Mission Caldari State Cruiser 25.0
Taibu State Samurai(25082) 165.0 Mission Caldari State Cruiser 25.0
Taibu State Shugo(25077) 215.0 Mission Caldari State Cruiser 25.0

I did not put the rats with a drone radius absent because that would add all those that are not concerned by this value (all destructible ) . However it contains several that have new AI, like diamond rats ; and the tessera drone (the abyssal BC that can one shoot your light drones with a 160 tracking).
Still many cruisers are allowed to shoot drones.

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I was referring to missions but yeah, Elite NPC’s can and will shoot Drones that are below their hull class. Course most Elite NPC’s in missions are doing some form of Ewar and are usually quickly destroyed.

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http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=24073
there’s your guy … :slight_smile:

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Was using t1 hobgoblin

Drones controlled by a VNI with

[Vexor Navy Issue, *Simulated Vexor Navy Issue Fitting]
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II

Target Painter II
Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Sensor Booster II
500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive

Auto Targeting System II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Vespa EC-600 x1
Salvage Drone I x5
Hobgoblin I x13

Targeting Range Script x1

Pilot drone skills were;
Drones / Rank 1 / Level: 5 / SP: 256,000 of 256,000
Drone Interfacing / Rank 5 / Level: 5 / SP: 1,280,000 of 1,280,000
Drone Durability / Rank 5 / Level: 4 / SP: 226,275 of 1,280,000
Gallente Drone Specialization / Rank 5 / Level: 3 / SP: 40,000 of 1,280,000
Drone Durability / Rank 5 / Level: 4 / SP: 226,275 of 1,280,000

I replied with the above to your comment as I am wishing to improve my ship fittings to be able to take on such npc’s even though as the mission stated killing those was not needed.

I didn’t try T2 or Navy Drones as I thought the t1 thermal would be enough to break them.

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