Oh - Do not join that ‘incompetent and proud’ group. Not only do they spam their recruiting ads everywhere (a big red flag as a decent corp won’t do that), but they are very heavy on drama. Also, they have over 1000 members but are afraid of very small corps. One of their officers recently accidently (?) admitted they only have “10-15 active pvpers”…out of over 1000 pilots… Of course do as you want, but if you are looking for pvp and low drama, ‘incompetent and proud’ would seem not to be a good choice.