Price of Plex - Market intervention Required from CCP

remember that because you hear people screaming, does not mean there is no silent people.

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They can ,obvious. IMO CCP do not intervene in helping push the price of plex down, but maintaining a constantly, progressive, increase in the price of plex.

Too high for players who want to plex their alts, or their main accounts.
Too low for players who want to buy isk with RM, and for CCPā€™s short term business economic outcome.

answer above ^

In this scenarios there are some factors related with all this we are talking about:

Botting: is not a problem for CCP business, RMT is the problem for CCP. And botting obviously is a big problem for the game, the community, the honest playersā€¦

ISK printing: is not a problem for CCP business, but for the content, the game, the active player, the new playerā€¦

IMO most of us love what this game can be, more than what actually is. And we are here making all these ideas keep turning because we are frustrated in some way about what is the game now.

Like player I have the felling that the actual huge pile of mechanics that support the game encourage us to behave like automatons, and I have enough with RL automatic activity.

The cure for this situation is aleatory, unpredictable and chaotic PVE content that will lead to complex and dynamic PVP content, that will make the game an attractive real sandbox again.

CCP, please cease squeezing the players base, do not make more content, but better content and the game will be more attractive an youā€™ll be utterly rich :wink:

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BS, anyone can afford two cups of coffee a month which is how much it cost to play this game.

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Yourā€™e perfectly ignorant. Good Job. Subscribing with plex actually makes CCP more cash than subscribing with cash.

Source :Math

Please, donā€™t. Plex seems to be a real issue, for the more economically minded hoarders, those that know what all the market entails.

They say itā€™s ā€˜market pvp.ā€™ Fine. They are doing spreadsheet combat. Clippy versusā€¦ ?

Whatever. They get rich, andā€¦ Well, thatā€™s it. They get rich. So what?

Balos.

100%.

666!

Ooh! Balos. Screw Balos. You posted this link, yourself.

Sure, Balos is a jerk. You and Sato are both right. Big deal. Balos is hardly unique.

Balos spotted.

99%.

Can you stop now? You can only escalate up to a point and you will always lose.

Give it a rest. There is no point in this, really.

Solstice

I think the loser here is you. Thereā€™s a limit to how often any person or group can get away with
ā€“ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well ā€“

Itā€™s an unpleasant technique used by people who are malicious, stupid, or both.

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Too low, way too low, too many multiboxers and that kinda ā– ā– ā– ā–  in the game. Need it to go way higher so that even the big ones start screeching and a good chunk of them go extinct.

Botting is a major factor contributing to players, thus CCPs source of revenue, to stop playing.

ISK printing is an extreme factor in players leaving, both due to burnout of the actual grind as well as being turned of from the game by heavy multiboxers / AFKers / Botters whom regular single or double account players will never be able to catch up with. MANY, not a small amount, but many people leave the game for this reason. Incidentally, all these small people that are leaving are a source of plex, or rather were in case of the ones who left, thus contributing to the current situation.

This is true. At the same time it will eliminate a big chunk of the above mentioned issues, since multiboxing / botting will be much more to do.

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Spot on Iā€™d say. Iā€™m a long-time on-and-off player who logs in just for some space fun, not in order to grind ISK. To me a subscription is an hour of RL work, and some overtime (frequently available) covers a moderate PLEX purchase without me noticing. What I canā€™t and wonā€™t do is spend hours on hours grinding missions or ratting just to make ISK.

If I want anything more expensive than I can support with the random PvE I dabble in I will sell off some PLEX. And when Iā€™m no longer having fun Iā€™m off to some other game for a few weeks or months, during which Iā€™m not selling any PLEX. Someone who deletes the client and never comes back will ofc never sell any PLEX again.

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I just want to see when the 0.0 farmers will reach the top point on this PLEX Ferris wheel.

You can increase the PLEX price every day to 4M ISK, 5M ISK, 6M ISK. But there should be a point above which even Rorqual multiboxers and botters will not be able to afford the PLEX price, considering the incoming rebalance changes.

Iā€™m doing a set of profitable affairs, but the PLEX price of 2.8-3M ISK was a condition when I bought PLEX from market for SKINS, just for investments, and for a two months subscription. The PLEX price over 3.3M ISK is a dead in game currency for me and Iā€™m motivated to pay with RL cash for subscription only. This is the usable PLEX price for me, based on how is to make the ISK/hour with a single account by doing different PVE activity (including time spent, risks and rewards).

Reddit commemorates the event - itā€™s now 2 bil per month to play by PLEX.

If you look at The Forge plex price graph for the last 12 months, it flattened out and even declined a bit from last April thru August. It doesnā€™t ALWAYS have to go up, we could flounder about at this level for a while.

i have postet it here: Plexmanipulations and its no a natural grow that is going onā€¦ its manipulated by ccp or some players.

It seems also a good solution as we talked the same idea with my friends. PLEX is usable is too much things, need remove this option. Now basic ISK source will cut down with higher respawn time of anomalies, fewer ISK means lower
PLEX price as I assume. Btw PLEX monthly price reached 2B now.

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Your name suits you :slight_smile:

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itā€™s not a natural grow, because the game is artificial, maybe ?

Itā€™s pretty simple long term: as plex prices go up, those who plex to play will stop playing. Plexers on average would spend significantly more time in game and as each leaves will reduce the activity of the entire game by more than the average player. As average activity and number of active players drop,

I think EVE need to re-work PLEX again. Price is too high, how much higher is it going to go!

There needs to be a Massive Sale with big bargains too push down the price.

Hmmm, im not an economist here. Just another guy with another train of thought.

All I can think is, yeah, higher ISK in PLEX seems like will make the ā€œproductionā€ of PLEX increased.

Tho, that is IF someone decides to produce it. (a big IF)

This isnt a real world where you not getting food you die, meaning you must do something to live. Ini EVE, you not buying PLEX with isk you either but the game time or just go alpha.

The question is, does being Omega is good? Is it better than being Alpha? or vice versa? or, do people even want to play EVE at all?

I mean, I dont know, I dont have the number. but in sandbox game, player pool are important right?

Because, yeah, paying players are contributing directly. Tho, these people paying for a game with huge number of player. Does limiting free player by sky rocketing PLEX to ISK ratio is good for the player pool?

does paying player have no problem play EVE with other paying player but with far less number of active player?

OK Iā€™ll continue this train of thought.

Lets use a spectrum. let say PLEX to ISK ratio become so high so makes it impossible for someone play the game freely.

Once again, I dont have the number, but who are these free loader?

Botters is obvious, if they gone, then good riddance.

Some player in third world also trying to keep being omega thru ISK. These people exist. Those who cant easily trade $15 for a month of sub. the people who got $600ish a month. Two third of it spent to rent and bills, the last third of it are for food and limited leisure. do we need this kind of people playing EVE?

who else?

Are those traders even need to go omega? How about industrialist, any reason for them to purchase PLEX or game time from ISK or real cash?

How about the average joe, or foot soldiers, or F1 monkeys or whatever you called nullsec people? Are they need to omega thru PLEX? Nullsec bloc might can adapted by issuing some alpha fit ship doctrines for their alpha army.

Those self proclaimed ā€œElite PVPā€ in wormholes or low sec might sub $15 without problem. and they get used with low player environment too. Maybe these people is the people who have no problem paying the game to hunt and shoot other paying players. Once or twice in a month, that is.

Do EVE have any casual player paying the game? I dont think CODE. gonna leave any new player alone in their mining barges. Casual high sec player might plexing their account once in a blue moon. Missioning all day in a month is worth $15? Alpha soon wont be able do the lv4 too. What casual people usually do in HS other than those? They easily play other game depending on their mood (I wonder if people have great mood after being killed in suicide gank)

Well, im not trying to get a point. I dont even have a point. It just a train of thought while watching PLEX price touching 2B.