Smartbomb resrictions

so, I know the reason for the change to not allow people to use smart bombs in highsec, which is to prevent people from making a ton of alpha accounts to gank people in highsec, which I understand that but there is a good bit of alphas especially new players that I feel like this mechanic kind of hurts.

the reason I say that is because how the whole change works is that if your safety system, which is the thing that helps and prevent new players that don’t know what they are doing committing a crime without them even knowing it was a crime, and how the saftey system works with smartbombs, is that if you are in highsec, you can’t turn the safety system down to red and you also can’t use smartbombs unless the safety system is turned down to red and the only way to turn it down to red is by either not being in highsec or by having omega. which is fine, but something that the smart bombs are good against is drones because it’s quite hard to kill drones especially if you’re a medium size ship, unless you’re a missile ship. Also, while you can kill drones in small size ships, even with ones that are not missile ships, it still is challenging especially when you’re trying to clear out a rouge drone site with a lot of drones or even doing a lvl2 security mission, which can have drones. I also do understand that you can use drones yourself to kill them but not all ships have drones.

Also, I know the restriction thing for smartbombs needs to stay to keep the issue, people just making a lot of alpha accounts to use smartbombs to gank people in high sec, from occurring again, but something to do instead of not being able to use smartbombs at all in high sec could be just making the restriction work a radius. for example, in high sec you could use the smartbomb but if you don’t have the safety system thing set to red and someone gets within a certain distance of you it could then not allow you to use it unless there’s none in that radius.

I don’t really care if the idea I gave isn’t really put into use, but I’m just suggesting at least give alpha players the ability to use it against drones and smaller ships like it is meant to.

Something else, if an idea like mine is put into use, the radius to disable the usage of the smartbomb would have to be increased a good bit farther than the effect of the actual module, mainly because I know people will just go fast enough to get hit by it anyways, due to latency and to bait them into suspect status. Also to address cloaking, the safety system could just not pick them up, for example if a cloaked person is within range of it, when it would normally disable the use of the smartbomb, it would still allow you to use the smartbomb because the safety system wouldn’t even be able to tell that they are there which is kind of the whole point of cloaking and also I know then people would just use cloaking to bait people into suspect status, but that does give more risk, when using it, to EVE and not to mention, someone intentionally going out of their way to use cloaking to bait someone to suspect status would either take them sitting in one spot for a long time and generally just be very unlikely for someone to be able to do that.

I’m just saying I just find it a bit annoying that I need to be omega to be able to use smartbombs against drones in highsec.

The game is not balanced for alphas.

They should pay to play.

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then there would be not point of the omega thing, or the alpha thing as well which it kind of acts like a free trial of sorts.

Before Alphas, there was just a 30 day trial, Alphas basically is just an extension of that to fit with the current models of games that have a f2p restricted and a subscription where you unlock the full game. Similar to WoW, FFXIV, SWTOR, ESO, etc.

Fit a webber, keep target at range to fly away from it, drones melt like ice in a hot pan even with medium guns.

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If memory serves me right, smartbombs were restricted from hisec even before alphas arrived

They are allowed, you just need red safety and not be close to certain structures.

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So you want smartbombs to automatically avoid hitting enemies and losing your ship to CONCORD in high sec?

No thanks.

If you wish to use something as risky as smartbombs in high sec people also should be able to use that big vulnerability you choose to have. If they can manage to fly into your smartbombs before you can react and get your ship killed to CONCORD that way, that’s fun emergent competitive gameplay. The kind EVE is known for.

If you don’t wish to risk dying to such things, don’t use smartbombs in hs.

Luckily this hypothetical scenario is not an issue for you, as I understand you’re Alpha and cannot turn your safeties to red to activate smartbombs anyway.

Have you considered other weapon systems with for example webifiers to kill the small targets?

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For lvl2 missions use a frigate or destroyer, not only are the guns the right size for the rats but your align and warp speed are quicker so you get more missions done per hour.

Even lvl3 missions can be done in frigates, but by then the average size of the rats has gone up and a cruiser or BC is likely better.

I don’t think they are going to change anything so someone on a trial account can use a particular module in a fairly niche way.

Seems like a silly thing to ask, tbh.

Anyone with at least a little bit of experience in EVE knows that they shouldn’t use smartbombs in highsec.

You’re not getting a suspect status. If you hit someone in highsec with a smartbomb, you’ll get a nice little visit from your friendly neighborhood CONCORD patrol. In other words - your ship explodes.

Here’s my suggestion to you: You obviously have a challenge in the game that you need to solve. It’s already solved by many other players. Instead of suggesting changes, how about you find a solution for what you are trying to do. You are even free to ask for advice and people here will help you out. Just state what you are trying to do, what your issues are and ask what’s the best way to do it.

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You clearly don’t know anything. Smartbombs can be used it High-sec but it requires you to set your Safety: Disabled (“Red”). This is also why Alpha accounts cannot use them in High-sec, as Alphas has a forced Safety: Enabled (“Green”) and cannot be changed.

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They should rename smartbombs to literally anything else. They’re not smart, and they’re not even bombs. Confusion solved.

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Smartbombs are explosions centered on your ship which hit everything close to you except your ship.

Sounds like a smart bomb to me?

I don’t know, I kind of always thought the name was weird. Is there something in real life called ‘smartbomb’, or ‘smart charge’ or something?

I think a ‘shockwave weapons’, ‘compression wave weapons’, ‘pressure wave weapons’ – something along those lines would make more sense.

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Yes there is. Theyre called precision guided munitions and through modern technology, they literally steer themselves to the target. Theyve been around for a pretty good while.

They dont act in the exact same explosion radius as this game of course…its just a “smart missile” in real world standards.

“Smart” bombs are guided towards their target after they are dropped from a plane. Unlike normal bombs that just drop. Which led to carpet bombing. Which is now frowned upon (like clusterbombs, gasbombs and incendrianties).

Eve’s smartbomb hits everything is a certain radius. Which is not like a RL smartbomb at all. But EVE is EVE with submarines and horizons in it too. So…. yeah.

I think the closest things to “Smartbombs” we have in real military technology is reactive Armor, which explodes towards incoming projectiles.

non-issue thread. alpha account wanting what alphas cant have.

I would like one that can toast me some bagels and bring me coffee in the morning. are they smart enough for that?