Then ganking will get nerfed. I would advise you against over doing it.
i’m trying to recall the last time i lost a ship to a war target in highsec.
six years ago now i think? its some insanely long time ago kind of number. wars don’t affect me, and haven’t affected me. I’m more interested in genuinely new players being able to start corps and do things together without having to run and hide.
The December change to Corps without structures is not a wardec nerf.
Aaaand there we have the next call for nerfs already. Can’t you at least wait until the one we are discussing is implemented? You completely spoil the one-more-nerf approach for your fellow carebears.
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That will be on the head of all of you that threw your toys around over the war dec changes. If you want to paint that as me calling for a nerf on ganking as a whole then feel free. I know what I would adjust.
Bumping
Loot scooping via a DST
Remove docking rights for -10 in NPC stations
Miner ganking is in a good place, hauler ganking is in a good place and if bumping was adjusted then freighter ganking will be in a good place.
But if you lot spitefully go all emotional on ganking to make a point against CCP to drive players out, so you can say I told you so, then you do it at your own peril and trying to blame me for advising you not to do this is a bit rich.
see… gankers aren’t really a concern. if you’re a little bit clever and know what you’re doing, they are (almost) irrelevant even for highsec dwellers.
It proves the activity of the game does not noticeably increase after major buffs to safety. I agree, that isn’t conclusive, but given highsec makes up such a large proportion of total game activity, you would think if increased safety increased player activity, you would see it.
Instead you don’t. In fact, you often see big legs down in player activity. Take that for what you want, but I only raise it to highlight why am so befuddled when carebears and their apologists keep trotting out the line that if only Eve was safer, it would have more players. There is no evidence for this I have seen anywhere, and what correlations we do have point to the opposite conclusion.
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Suicide gankers and gankers are two different things.
But they were not major buffs to safety.
AWOX’ing had largely ended before that safety was put in because hisec corps were no longer taking risks and were no longer recruiting new players because of this.
The DCU change was only applied to freighters after the buffing of freighter wrecks as an afterthought to balance off against that massive buff to ganking which it did not get anywhere near, it changed nothing for freighter ganking in terms of safety
It is total rubbish.
In fact the application of that safety in terms of friendly fire was due to the catastrophic reduction in hisec recruitment that meant that people starting in hisec could not find a corp with veterans willing to take a risk to develop them.
This is easily explained.
The safer HS is, the more it negates NS alts operating there for easy PvP kicks, and relegates them back to NS.
The issue overall is not increasing HS PvP, its increasing NS PvP, where it belongs to be en masse.
Everyone has known this for years.
PvP in HS is RESTRICTED.
PvP in NS is UNRESTRICTED (or is it).
By all sense and reason, NS should overwhelmingly be the sector of most PvP.
Yet people constantly cry about it. See the carebear in the post above yours.
You are trying too hard, as I said you should be very careful in over doing ganking to make a point. If saying that is calling for a nerf or being a raging carebear in your mind then so be it. But you really do not want to over do it.
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Ok, let me thinka about this for a sec… NO
In which case you will only have yourselves to blame if CCP over react to your petulant over reaction.
Look at what you cry about, constantly.
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I have no idea who you are. Nor do I care. You’re a Code bottomfeeder, as far as I’m concerned.
My personal opinion here differs. I think its too late.
well, more precisely, its not, but thats also irrelevant.
See, the problem is, your ilk - gankers, griefers and such - have given EVE such a spectacularly bad name that I’m honestly doubtful that anything except for extreme measures could possibly turn it around. I don’t honestly believe that wardec changes in december, or even next year, will do more than slow the blood loss on an already fatal wound inflicted to the game.
There is a way to save the host, I think, but the extreme measures required would also almost certainly kill it and leave it perpetually stable with no real growth to linger on for many years to come, it would however be a shell of its former self.
So, you know, do whatever. Game is declining and has been for some time because new players have been ran out of it by their interactions in highsec, of which code is almost certainly a large part of.
Hell, keep the status quo. make it worse than it is. get it overwith already.
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I would LOVE for CCP to investigate and report to CSM and us how much player attrition has occurred as a result of CODE suicide ganking in HS.
No. Seriously. legitimately, lets make the status quo a million times worse.
Reduce war cost to the arbitrary level of 1 isk per war per week. for everyone. burn eve to the ground. burn highsec to the ground. leave nothing but cinders.
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There is a lot they could do. To start they could actually try to make add new gameplay and tools around wardecs to allow for more interesting stuff to happen and not just constantly push for removal or limitations to force a certain behavior in players.
The now proposed and public changes are rather boring and stupid.
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To Salvos Rhoska they were.
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