The Good, The Bad and The Enemy Militia

Topic: Factional Warfare,
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As a returning player who focuses on Factional Warfare, my year in Eve was interesting.

Shock! The Caldari Militia were no longer at war with Minmatar Militia, now the only thing stopping me from going to Jita is the -10 Standings.

Dec 2024 I found myself returning to Eve in the middle of an insurgency fighting a militia that didn’t exist last time I played Eve. Suddenly I see Navy destroyers are a thing that exists,

The Factional Warfare system had been completely overhauled, gone was the feeding of LP into the ihub to raise the tier to get more LP.
After all these years can they really have got rid of that strange FW system so easily?

The answer is yes and no, the results of the change seemed to have stagnated things a little. There is no longer a sweeping tide of systems changing sovereignty, this year I have mostly been stuck in the same fox hole.

The FW complexes changed the amount they affect the contested level, the LP they reward and which ships can enter. The changes and rebalance continued, in 2025 we see the FW Complexes become more like the insurgency complexes. No longer is an unarmed punisher with 5 warp core stabilizers the best ship to defend a system. Frigates in general are now far less significant than they used to be for contesting systems. .

2026 has arrived and I will now get to the point.

I was wondering if there is something else that we could learn from how the insurgencies work. The mechanism of insurgencies is a periodically spawning, random epicentre of action, focusing the active players. They mobilize to the designated systems for a temporary objective. I like this.

What if normal Factional Warfare was more like the insurgencies?

Create a periodic random location of a temporary epicentre focusing the players to the action.

The way that could be done is to adjust the way the complexes work so that at the epicentre there are more complexes; with more LP rewards, more multi ship reward sites and each complex has more effect of the contested level. Systems away from the epicentre the reverse applies.

The epicentre of the war and the FOB might be close together and they might not, depending how they spawn at random. There would always be 1 in 70 chance of being the same system or 1/101 for the Gal-Cal warzone

Complexes in systems away from the epicentre spawn less frequently and give lower rewards. This encourages engagement with the insurgency because if you want the dank LP you either have to go to the epicentre of the war or to the insurgency,

Do players think a random element of this kind being introduced to FW is a good idea?

What about the existing system of faction advantage ?

Did you read the recent dev blog?

No, which one, do you have a link ?

I think that theme park vibe is unavoidable in a Universe where you are immortal and pay the police to allow wars.

The idea of only being able to attack adjacent systems is interesting and there is no reason why that could not also be a thing.

You mentioned the activity of players having an effect on the security level which is an idea I also had. All player activity should have an effect on the Eve environment instead of just being an endless resource to farm. I like the idea that player activity could trigger an insurgency, good ideas but we are being quite vague.

I don’t really see why insurgencies are always in the war zone, they are at war with empire militias to disable the gate guns which do not protect ships you are at war with anyway.

I’m not sure what they get out of lowering the security level of low sec systems in the war zone?

If I can defend a FW complex for LP why would I bother fight pirates over their plexes for the same LP when I can just leave them to it and they will be gone once they have finished?

It’s not an objective, it’s an opportunity. The effect of defending or attacking in that area is increased so it allows players to take advantage of that. It adds an emphasis because if complexes in this group of systems will have (For example) double effect, it means both attackers and defenders are able to take advantage of that for a limited duration. It would simply be a terrain feature that would help eliminate some of the abuses and exploits of a game mechanism that is too easy to manipulate .

Terrain is how I see the pirate insurgencies, there is no real need to stop them, the results of the insurgency are as useful to the militia as they are to the pirates. Except for the gate rats. It’s annoying not to be able to go to sleep on a gate.

I get that something vaguely relatable to warfare as we know it on earth would have its appeal but not if factional warfare is the only place in New Eden that happens and warfare elsewhere is never like that. I don’t really know enough about warfare outside of FW to definitively say how it happens. and the only real example to compare it to is Null sovereignty.

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